Grapplers open season
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This will be a blowout, but interesting nonetheless. The Harold Nichols will feature some very good wrestlers from many different divisions. If able to attend, do so!
however close the dual may be with iowa this year, and we just might take it, they will blow the roof off of the national tourney and we will not touch them (barring injuries).
In theory you are correct! Many people said the same thing of Minnesota last year and that didn't work out too well for them.
Seasons need to play out before we crown a champion....
Seasons need to play out before we crown a champion....
What is this crap? I'll guarantee nobody in the cyclone wrestling room agrees with this. Overall we have higher ranked and better wrestlers - despite being #2. What we don't have is Iowa's reputation. We should win the dual and our chances (not history) at the national tournament are better than that other state school's!
The Hokeyes are the champs and will be until beaten. But... they do have issues:
1) Is Beatty better because he's bigger.
2) Who replaces Nat. Champ Perry? (Covington (if sober) or maybe Ballweg so an under-achieving Morningstar can move up a weight.)
3) And how about heavyweight. Erekson has had some moments but he's hardly proven at HVY and is a long shot from Fields.
Hawk fans will ***** all day long about Perry and Fields (and let's not forget Mocco) but the reality is they were a huge reason for their success and the holes they left won't be filled by second recruiting class from Virginia Tech!
We have better wrestlers. If we wrestle to win rather than to "not lose" (that means you Jake) we will win.
Go Cyclones!
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YES... I agree with that. We should win the dual.. but in tourneys, we need points... so you have wrestle to win.
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Dual with Iowa
125: Clark vs Falck
133: Fanthorpe vs Slaton/Dennis
141: Gallick vs Tsirtis/LeClaire
149: Mueller vs Metcalf
157: Sanderson vs Morningstar/Ballweg?
165: Reader vs Covington/Morningstar
174: Burke vs Borschel
184: Ward vs Keddy
197: Varner vs Beatty
HWT: Zabriskie vs Erekson
ISU favored at 157, 165, 197, HWT. Iowa the other 6 with bonus points at 149 and possibly 174. Fanthorpe and Gallick need to finally win a match against the Iowa wrestlers. Either way should be a good exciting season.
125: Clark vs Falck
133: Fanthorpe vs Slaton/Dennis
141: Gallick vs Tsirtis/LeClaire
149: Mueller vs Metcalf
157: Sanderson vs Morningstar/Ballweg?
165: Reader vs Covington/Morningstar
174: Burke vs Borschel
184: Ward vs Keddy
197: Varner vs Beatty
HWT: Zabriskie vs Erekson
ISU favored at 157, 165, 197, HWT. Iowa the other 6 with bonus points at 149 and possibly 174. Fanthorpe and Gallick need to finally win a match against the Iowa wrestlers. Either way should be a good exciting season.
Here is what the results would be if each wrestler placed at his ranking. It doesn't take into account bonus points and that will be the difference and I can see Metcalf scoring another 10 points in bonus points for the Hawks so we will need Varner to step up and do the same:It will be a 2 team race and it will be fun.
W.I.N.’S 2008-09 PRESEASON TOURNAMENT POWER INDEX (T.P.I.)
W.I.N.’s Tournament Power Index (T.P.I.) is based on how a school’s individually-ranked wrestlers — according to the current W.I.N. rankings — would finish in the NCAA Div. I tournament. Point totals are based on what wrestlers would receive at the NCAA tournament, including All-American points for finishing in the top eight and advancement points. Only teams with ranked wrestlers are included.
Points totals associated with individual rankings are as followed: 1st - 20 (16 AA points + 4 advancement points); 2nd - 16 (12+4); 3rd - 13.5 (10+3.5); 4th - 12. 5 (9+3.5); 5th - 10 (7+3); 6th - 9 (6+3); 7th - 6.5 (4+2.5); 8th - 5.5 (3+2.5); 9th/12th - 2; 13th/16th - 1.5; 17th-20th - 1
Rank/School/Pts
1. Iowa 91
2. Iowa State 90
3. Cornell 77
4. Missouri 61
5. Ohio State 54
6. Nebraska 53
7. Illinois 50
8. Michigan 44
9. Penn State 35
10. Boise State 34.5
TheMat.com - The Official Website of USA Wrestling
W.I.N.’S 2008-09 PRESEASON TOURNAMENT POWER INDEX (T.P.I.)
W.I.N.’s Tournament Power Index (T.P.I.) is based on how a school’s individually-ranked wrestlers — according to the current W.I.N. rankings — would finish in the NCAA Div. I tournament. Point totals are based on what wrestlers would receive at the NCAA tournament, including All-American points for finishing in the top eight and advancement points. Only teams with ranked wrestlers are included.
Points totals associated with individual rankings are as followed: 1st - 20 (16 AA points + 4 advancement points); 2nd - 16 (12+4); 3rd - 13.5 (10+3.5); 4th - 12. 5 (9+3.5); 5th - 10 (7+3); 6th - 9 (6+3); 7th - 6.5 (4+2.5); 8th - 5.5 (3+2.5); 9th/12th - 2; 13th/16th - 1.5; 17th-20th - 1
Rank/School/Pts
1. Iowa 91
2. Iowa State 90
3. Cornell 77
4. Missouri 61
5. Ohio State 54
6. Nebraska 53
7. Illinois 50
8. Michigan 44
9. Penn State 35
10. Boise State 34.5
TheMat.com - The Official Website of USA Wrestling
No use starting the season off thinking, "we are not going to win a national championship" What kind of mentality is that. I believe, and I will be mat side every home match cheering my loudest for Iowa State.
ISU is favored in 5 not 4. Despite losing to LeClere twice last year every poll I've seen has Gallick at or near #2 while LeClere is around #10. Their bonus points are equally countered by us at 197 and 157/165 (if not HVY). Jeez people - you gotta believe!
I don't think Gallick will face LeClere it will be Tsirtis, not that it matters as Gallick beats either one.
Also we won't score bonus points at 157/165, but I agree we will at 97 and 275 so that will help.
I think we match up well with Iowa in a dual, I have said before that Nationals will come down to who scores more bonus points and has the better draws as we won't wrestle head to head 10 times like a dual meet.
