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  1. surly

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    https://cyclonefanatic.com/2018/06/stanz-too-early-big-12-mens-basketball-power-rankings/

    4 — Iowa State Cyclones
    Few teams have as wide of a range they can be placed in these rankings as the Cyclones.

    A path to topping Kansas and winning the league isn’t outside the realm of possibility to those of us who closely follow the program, while an outside observer could make a case for Iowa State entering the season as one of the league’s bottom-dwellers.

    Lindell Wigginton returns with a stated mission of being one of the best guards in college basketball. He has all the talent to do so and the supporting cast necessary to make some serious noise on the college basketball landscape this winter.

    Virginia transfer Marial Shayok gives Wigginton a highly-skilled and versatile running mate in the backcourt. Nebraska transfer Michael Jacobson will be a welcome addition of depth to the Cyclones’ frontcourt which is already pretty salty with Cameron Lard and Solomon Young returning.

    Throw in one of the best recruiting classes in school history, led by versatile four-star prospect Talen Horton-Tucker, a handful of other key rotational returners such as Nick Weiler Babb and it is hard to see the Cyclones missing the NCAA Tournament for the second year in a row.
     
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    Well they were pretty accurate last year...
     
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    For ***** sake.
     
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    hahaha surly, take the week off.
     
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    Okay, what did I miss?
     
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    It's from this site.
     
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    I did not see it on this site even though I know the writer is from here. Didn't see it discussed. Obviously, I missed it somewhere. He does a good job sans the tired and worn Weber narrative.
     
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    The link to the CF thread is in your first post.
     
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    Surly gets such a hardon to run to this site with anything that is remotely positive towards KState that he loses all basic perception skills.
     
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    Somebody bookmark this thread for the end of year awards.
     
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    @surly, you are magnificent.
     
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    Read your link's address. It starts off http://cyclonefanatic.com...
     
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    Need to know if @ajcksu82 agrees...
     
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    You guys are most ungrateful of my presence. All the humor I provide. After all ...
     
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    Homer forecast by player for how ISU ends up in the Top 3 in conference:

    Wigginton -- comes back even better than last year, keeps shooting at a 40%+ clip, wins Big 12 CPOTY and has consideration for All-American teams, generates enough hype to be an easy First Round pick for the NBA or even into the lottery

    Weiler-Babb -- completely healthy, proves a jack-of-all-trades who can both manage the offense and switch on anybody on defense, never really blows you away but every time you look at the end of the game he is pushing for a double-double

    Shayok -- proves a lock-down, Babb-like defender on one end and a versatile scoring threat on the other end (unlike Jackson, even if Shayok approaches his 3%)

    Young -- never flashy, definitely a complementary piece, but grabs a lot of rebounds, sets a lot of screens, and cleans up a lot of trash Hogue-style

    Lard -- comes back from this summer a new man, and night-in night-out plays like the guy who went for 21 and 16 against Oklahoma last year (well, maybe not quite that much, but he plays with a consistency that was missing last season, and we never see "bad Lard" from the Tennessee game again), pushes for First-Team All-Big 12

    Horton-Tucker -- everything we hoped for and more, and either settles into a role as a deadly bench gunner against tired starters/over-matched second units or earns a starting role and is obviously going to be the centerpiece of the offense after Wigginton

    Talley -- picks up where he left off as a "spare" rangy wing that is switch-on-everything on defense and with a good handle, never going to be a great shooter but improves to the point where defense cannot obviously sag off him anymore

    Jacobson -- can come in for either of the other big men without missing a beat, earns a lot of playing time for being just as good of a defender as Young but actually a better complement to Lard for developing a consistent outside shot, comparisons to JVB abound as the goofy Stretch-4 (only able to play some defense)

    The other guys on the roster might not be able to earn playing time about the top eight above, but they flash in their rare minutes. It seems like the roster is in good shape going into next year, even losing 3-4 starters, with what he have coming back.

    We finish towards the top of the conference and beat most of the other good teams in Hilton. We win 2-3 games in Kansas City. We get out of the first weekend of the NCAA tournament. The recruiting class for the year after next looks stellar, just like the last one. We are all in love with Jeff Prohm. His name starts coming up for openings at nominally more attractive schools, such as the UCLA job, which might be coming open.

    Downer forecast by player for how ISU ends up in the Bottom 3 in conference:

    Wigginton -- the shooting last year proves an accident as defenses key on it more last year, never develops a solid handle as a Big 12 point guard and has a sour A:T ratio, not able to play himself out of the Second Round and an uncertain future

    Weiler-Babb -- never really healthy again, gives it the best go that he can, but leg and back problems continue to limit his minutes and effectiveness

    Shayok -- inconsistencies that made him only a bench/rotational/fringe starter player at UVA manifest themselves again at Iowa State, defenses can put better defenders on him, and the hope he can shoot never really manifests itself in the games

    Young -- still solid and somewhat consistent, but his nature as something of a "high-floor, low-ceiling" player becomes more and more floor this year, as his lack of skill around the hoop and shooting limits what he can contribute

    Lard -- never makes it back to Ames :(

    Horton-Tucker -- shows flashes, but the size and speed of Big 12 defenders sometime frustrate him as he goes through a transition process to the college game as a true freshman, and still needs to get in better shape to really contribute at this level

    Talley -- while still useful, he never proves a plus defender... versatile does not always mean good... and still cannot shoot, which clogs up the offense

    Jacobson -- the same player he was at Nebraska, which projects maybe as a rotational guy on a good team, and never really develops an outside shot

    None of the other guys on the roster appear ready for Big 12 competition. A starting lineup the next year of Haliburton, Horton-Tucker, Lewis, Jacobson, and Young scares us, and we are unsure what we can really expect from graduate transfers and JUCOs.

    We finish towards the bottom of the conference, we exit early from the Big 12 tournament and maybe hang out on the NIT bubble. Without much to show for this season, the recruiting class does not go too well. The natives are restless about Chief Prohm.

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    I imagine it will be something more towards the former but probably in the middle.
     

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