And plenty of people die from other medical conditions because they ignore the problem/warnings or don't want to go to the doctor, take their medications, etc.
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And plenty of people die from other medical conditions because they ignore the problem/warnings or don't want to go to the doctor, take their medications, etc.
Totally agree. I worked with a lady for a few years that was an alcoholic. Watched her crash and burn in front of many customers many times and she acted like it wasn't a big deal. Refused help all of the time and went to detox a few times only to come back and be caught skipping work to hang out the Fox Lounge all day.
Those people ultimately die by their own hand, as well. It also victimizes their families and the people in their lives. I'm not sure of your point.
That's what is so frustrating. It's a hard road, for sure. But one that can be done, and will not only improve their lives, but the lives of those around them. Your poor employer likely lost customers due to her decision to purposely turn away help.
I am absolutely sympathetic to alcoholics, and it is a horrible problem with many facets. However, if you're unwilling to help yourself despite being given all of the resources in the world, it's hard for me to have much sympathy.
No... You have "Can't remember to pick the kid up from school" disease. :wideeyed:
Awesome link and video! Thanks for sharing. He owned that like a boss...
I've seen an NCAA projection or two matching us up against Colorado State in the first round (I refuse to call it 2nd round). While I would certainly want to win that game, I wouldn't be totally crushed if we lost to a LE team. I think there is ample room for both criticism and praise for him during his tenure here at ISU, but that was a lifetime ago in college basketball. I've forgiven him and wish him the best.
You write six words: "I am absolutely sympathetic to alcoholics," but write one-hundred-seven more revealing that statement to be a lie.
It's called chemical dependence. They need help and the disease keeps them from asking for it.
Edit: meh. This came out much harsher than I meant it to. I :wub: you Angie, but we just disagree on this one. :sad:
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Can someone prevent themselves from becoming an alcoholic? Yes.
Can someone prevent themselves from getting cancer? In most cases, no.
Can someone prevent themselves from getting cancer? In most cases, no.
Man, Mitch was great!!! Saw him the last time he was at the Val Air. Sad, but any guesses to what he died of? (All speculation of a drug overdose, but there is a history there...)
Doug Stanhope has several great bits on the subject, too. One is how his friends think he should stop drinking, but not before the show they have tickets to because he's funnier when drinking. The other was played on O&A a couple weeks ago, related to Dr. Drew/Celeb Rehab.
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Not in all cases, as we've discussed previously. There are people with depression so debilitating that they are unable to ask for help with their alcoholism, for sure. Then there are people who don't ask due to pride. Or people who have been helped, have been through treatment, and still just want to drink when done. And when that decision is ruining the lives of people around them, it's no longer sympathetic.
And he displayed his boorish behavior towards the people you mentioned even when he wasn't doing his drinking.
I still would like to know who exactly diagnosed LE as an "alcoholic" and where he exactly he went for his "treatment" after the ISU firing.
Isn't that what alcoholics call themselves in meetings? Hi I'm Larry and I'm an alcoholic? Or maybe he's cured and not currently in treatment?
Won't debate the disease not disease because I think there are both, but this IS the bed he made for himself and unfortunately those things stick.
Good thing we never do things like that, like taunt Mangino for being really fat. Because our fan base is better than all the others!
I :wub: you, too.
And I really do understand what you're saying. And largely agree with you. I think the only difference is that I lose my patience at the point at which help has been given and refused, oftentimes on multiple occasions. I just lose sympathy then, whether that's right or wrong.
