ESPN's Stanford Steve picks ISU to win the Big 12

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  1. BWRhasnoAC

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    That bench stat is pathetic. I benched 315 my junior year in high school.
     
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    I just assumed he was stupid.
     
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    Yeah, I don't think that can be interpreted as he picked ISU to win the Big 12. He certainly never said those words.
     
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    At Toledo, Campbell replaced a starting line of all seniors the next year with a new line of seniors. I have to think that is his goal here. May not see it until Year 6 or 7.
     
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    I agree but that is what the man said, and people wonder why Rhodes last teams were not winning as much as they should of.
    If I remember the strength and conditioning coach said something about trying something new, to cut down on injuries that we were having at the time.
     
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    Has CMC had a top 50 offense at ISU?

    We were 97th or something like that last year with Montgomery and Butler. We've never shown the ability to beat a blitz yet, but that's gone back long before CMC got here. We show little to no creativity or variety offensively either. We've handed it off up the middle or thrown deep outs and fly patterns about 95% of the time.

    I'm holding out hope that we'll see something change this season, especially with Manning back (hoping he learned some things in the NFL), but not holding my breath.

    Now I totally understand people will rip me up and down for my opinion on this, that's totally cool, I get it. I'm NOT saying I don't appreciate CMC and everything he's done, it's been awesome. He has brought us a LONG way. But this post was about someone picking us to win the Big 12, and in my honest opinion, that won't happen unless our offense can take a big step forward in a lot of ways.
     
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    First, starters Josh Knipfel and Colin Newell are both Matt Campbell recruits.

    Otherwise, what part of “higher ceiling” did you not understand? Just because they have more base talent, doesn’t mean that they are ready to be better now. Experience tempers ability.

    Redshirt sophomore Robert Hudson is behind Knipfel, who is probably NFL caliber. Redshirt freshmen Trevor Downing and Joey Ramos aren’t starting yet...partly because they just came off their redshirt and partly because Fall drills haven’t started yet...and partly because only the OL, experience and cohesiveness trumps raw talent—to a certain point.

    Four and five star rankings often have to do with a player’s visibility, and also often only reflect how soon a player is ready to contribute. On the other hand, if rankings are all you’re looking at, redshirt junior Sean Foster—a Matt Campbell recruit—was a four star.

    At the same time, Grant Treiber was “only” a three star—but I think he may prove to be as talented as an OL signed by ISU in a very, very long time. He chose ISU over Oregon.

    No. He said that we only had three player who could bench four hundred. And to be scrupulously accurate, that was because several others in the 400 Club had just completed their eligibility.

    I already answered that. Why do I get the feeling I’m replying to somebody drunk posting?

    Starting in 2021–at worst—the OL should be a major strength going forward.
     
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    He said "give me Iowa State". I'm not sure how else to interpret that. Maybe he was picking them as a value pick or something.
     
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    This man is a modern-day football prophet, but he still has doubters here. For shame.
     
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  10. madguy30

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    Has he had a consistently experienced and healthy Oline? It's very hard to scheme when there's no push up front.

    The offense hasn't been crazy under CMC and there's certainly games where the scheme wasn't great but to say he never utilizes the talent that's there is an exaggeration. If he didn't utilize the talent, David Montgomery and Hakeem Butler wouldn't have had the careers they had.
     
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    True to CF we can only bicker about the fine details, rather than accept the compliment.
     
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    For once I agree with Clonedude. The creativity has been frustrating under Campbell. I think he just wants that Oline to be the feature, and he is going to use trial by fire until they are what he wants them to be to a certain extent.
     
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    #53 SEIOWA CLONE, Jul 21, 2019
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    I was wrong it was 400 pounds not the 300 that I said, my mistake, , but we only had one not three.

    Wade has his work cut out for him. Campbell noted that on last year’s Toledo roster (that beat Iowa State), 27 players on that team bench pressed over 400 pounds. When the Campbell staff arrived in Ames, only one Cyclone could do so
    https://cyclonefanatic.com/2016/07/what-s-matt-campbell-s-plan-on-the-offensive-line/

    Looking over our OL rankings since Campbell became the head coach, according to 247, we do not have one OL recruit over a 3 star. So unless we start bringing in 4 & 5 star Lineman, we are going to have to make them, and that takes times. You can use the link to go back to the preceding classes.

    https://247sports.com/college/iowa-state/Season/2019-Football/Targets/

    247 had Foster as a 3 star recruit,

    https://247sports.com/player/sean-foster-31650/
     
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    I assumed it was 7-1 odds and he would take that; 7-1 not the conference record (but I haven't accessed the video)
     
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    I watched it again there isn't any context but it does look like odds. His honor remains intact.
     
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    ...or this season could mean the mother of all nut cup kicks
    (But I don't believe that and neither should other Cyclone fans. It's a new era!)
     
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    Can you imagine what the hype would be like if Montgomery and Butler had come back for their senior season? I'm glad they are making bank, but the hype train would have been insane...
     
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    Not when one gets cancelled due to weather.
     
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  19. chadly82

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    I don't think that is going to be an issue at all. There is also their fair share of critics about losing DM and Butler and being ISU has never had sustained success in football I cant imagine this will be a problem.
     
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    There’s always critics and skeptics with Iowa state football. What never happens however is for us to get picked 3rd in the league and people from major networks actually picking us to win it. I’m not saying CMC can kept the guys heads on straight. I’m just saying it’s possible it’s gonna be a challenge to some degree.
     
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