ESPN's Stanford Steve picks ISU to win the Big 12

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  1. BWRhasnoAC

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    Their weight coach is making their world miserable on the daily. They will be focused.
     
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    I'm not concerned about the defense at all, but I won't be sold on our offense until I see it.

    CMC has never had even a decent offense while at ISU yet. The OL has always been an issue, and the scheme has always been an issue as well (yes, even when Manning was here).

    We've always had the talent, minus the OL, but have never been able to utilize it with a good gameplan, play calling, etc.
     
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    Our o-line has come a long way. With Montgomery, we just needed them to get in someone's way while he did his thing. This year, I expect us to mostly use running plays that are built around running backs following the blocks. Yes, we could have a better running game than last year. That isn't to say Montgomery wasn't great, but that we will be much better as a unit of running backs and o-linemen.
     
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    As much as I agree with you. That appears to be the mentality that Campbell is getting away from. We all know we don't have the talent of some of the top teams, but attention to detail, preparation, and effort can beat anyone. I would love to have the talent of OU and Texas, but sometimes it seems like when you get that talent, those type of players lack some of work ethic and team first mentality that wins titles.
     
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    The offense has always taken what the defense gives them. The problem is, there's not a lot to have when your oline is poor.
     
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    Some guy that espn pays to hang out with SVP from what I can tell.
     
  7. madguy30

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    Never?
     
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    I think Manning should put Tiller in this year.
     
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    I agree. But it also feels a bit like when TJ came back
     
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    I mean this is a segment about betting right? 7-1 odds probably is the best bet, he isn't picking us outright.
     
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    Campbell's job is to convince those young men in the locker room, not the fans. I don't think we'll need to worry about the hard work aspect so check that one off.

    Like I said, it's possible but we aren't the favorite for logical reasons. It's possible, but I'd put our chances of winning the Big 12 at something like 10-15% chance.
     
  12. BoxsterCy

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    So, you're saying..............

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    That's what I thought too, but I think he actually thinks we win it based on his comments
     
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    As I have said before, if we do not have an above average OL this year then we might never will. Return all 5 starters, 4 of which are seniors, so they have been in the system at least 4 years. They have all played together, so they should know each others strengths and weaknesses, there should be on miscommunication issues.
    Its time for this group to take the necessary step up and become a unit of strength, instead of a weakness that it has been for years.
    The talent is there, the experience is there, now its time to stop talking about it and doing it on the field.
     
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    I will not allow Stanford Steve to be slandered. One of the best handicappers in mainstream media.
     
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    He picked us to go 7-1 and win the conference was how I took it.
     
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    But there are 9 conference games.
     
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    You don't think that an entire offensive line recruited by Campbell after he found his stride won't be even better? I do.
     
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    Manning is back to put the whole offense together. I expect the OL to be improved. Not sure why everyone wants to credit that solely to Manning. Not only does Matt Campbell know the OL, he knows a good young OL coach when he chooses one.

    If not this year, “never”? Seriously?

    When those four seniors graduate, they’ll be replaced by players with high ceilings. However successful they are in 2019, 2020 should yield fairly similar results. That group will be building around at least one, perhaps two (or more) returning starters.

    Then in 2021, unless Sean Foster grabs a starting spot in his 2020 senior year, we’ll likely return all five OL starters again.

    I think that’ll be an ***-kicking offensive line.

    “Never” isn’t a very long time.
     
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  20. SEIOWA CLONE

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    What I am saying is that all five started last year, if the recruits are that much better, then why have they not replaced the starters we have? I love the recruiting that Campbell is doing, but its not like we are loading up on 4 and 5 star offensive lineman.
    Lineman at many schools are made not highly ranked. What did Campbell say, when he got to Ames, we have 3 players that could bench press 300 or more pounds. I suspect we have more than that now, a lot more.
    All five started last year, four are seniors, OLine has been a weakness for years, if we can not have a strong OL this year, then when will it happen.
     

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