Good god, is your reading comprehension that bad? Do you not see where I posted right after that that it isn't acceptable. It is a way of putting herself in a bad situation is what I am saying.
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Dude is an all pro NFL player outside of her pulling a weapon. Im guessing he could have restrained her without knocking her out.
Ahahahahaha. You really got me! Please, keep defending stupidity, it becomes you.
Man, I can't wait for this day to be over so I can go home and smack my wife around for not giving it up to me (I have it in my spreadsheet) then question what the hell I'm doing with my life the rest of the night.
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Yep. I don't care what a women has done or said to a guy just walk away. A man who hits a woman is one of the lowest forms of life that there is.
Heres a question, just playing devils advocate. Let's say for some reason a woman gets mad at you at a bar and starts hitting you with a broken beer bottle or some sort of weapon. Is it ok to hit her to make her stop?
Where is that line? Assuming you can't get away for whatever reason.
Where is that line? Assuming you can't get away for whatever reason.
The idea that the word "provocation" is even being discussed is sickening. I don't care what she did or say, it is incumbent on him to walk away. Also, this notion is so shortsighted as it relates to domestic abuse. My employment requires me to work with individuals who both perpetrate domestic abuse and are the victims of it, and it goes so far beyond "don't talk **** and you won't get it" that to suggest provocation has ANYTHING to do with domestic violence is absurd. Men don't hit women because of fear or frustration, they do it to maintain control. This isn't about mouthing off, it's about control.
The entire handling of this is sickening. The fact anyone would mention provocation, the woman apologizing at the press conference, just all so barbaric and awful.
You are really geared up about this whole being allowed to hit a woman thing, aren't you? Ok, so you are right, if a woman is attempting to cause your serious bodily harm and there is no other escape it may be justifiable to use force. There you go-- hit away.
I really dislike Stephen A on many levels. It's just a personality that wears me out really fast.
It seems to me that he just trying to say that he is aware of the domestic violence that goes on and tells his own family members to be careful. Given the sensitivity of the subject matter, he picked a really poor time for a stupid analogy.
I haven't seen a single "pro-domestic abuse" post in here and I hope I never do. I just think some people are being realistic saying that it does go on and there may SOMETIMES be ways to protect yourself from getting into the situation in the first place. That does not, in any way possible, mean that abuse is ever deserved.
Stephen A probably should have said "Let's make sure we do our best to avoid the situation" versus "let's make sure we don't do anything to provoke wrong actions". I think that phrase may have set this whole thing off.
All in all, I like watching him have to squirm. His demeanor pisses me off. I can't watch him even if he makes an occassional good point.
It seems to me that he just trying to say that he is aware of the domestic violence that goes on and tells his own family members to be careful. Given the sensitivity of the subject matter, he picked a really poor time for a stupid analogy.
I haven't seen a single "pro-domestic abuse" post in here and I hope I never do. I just think some people are being realistic saying that it does go on and there may SOMETIMES be ways to protect yourself from getting into the situation in the first place. That does not, in any way possible, mean that abuse is ever deserved.
Stephen A probably should have said "Let's make sure we do our best to avoid the situation" versus "let's make sure we don't do anything to provoke wrong actions". I think that phrase may have set this whole thing off.
All in all, I like watching him have to squirm. His demeanor pisses me off. I can't watch him even if he makes an occassional good point.
I am not saying to go around and hit every woman you can find. I am saying that there are certain times when it would be ok to hit anyone regardless of gender. Obviously you try to diffuse the situation without using force but sometimes you have to, regardless of gender.
Nobody said what Ray Rice did was acceptable or that it was her fault. Just that she should be smart about the situation and not put herself in a bad situation in case she did do something. If you ever learn anything on sociology is that women can be provokers of violence by men. This has been true since the beginning of life on earth.
Just seems like a really weird argument to support. Ok, yes, if a woman is trying to murder you one does not have to allow her to do so in lieu of hitting her. Point taken.
Parent knowingly lets a convicted pedephile watch there kid and he/she gets molested. Parent should have no guilt?
