Eagles appear to be targeting Lincoln Riley

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Riley seems to me to be the best NFL fit. He's not into the 'family' stuff like Matt Campbell, who I doubt would work well with the NFL's mindset. He's just too gung-ho for that. Reminds me of Lou Holtz in that way.

Riley, on the other hand, is much more the technician than the father figure. And Riley has had far more success than Campbell, if this thread is about in some way comparing the two for that platform.
 

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Riley seems to me to be the best NFL fit. He's not into the 'family' stuff like Matt Campbell, who I doubt would work well with the NFL's mindset. He's just too gung-ho for that. Reminds me of Lou Holtz in that way.

Riley, on the other hand, is much more the technician than the father figure. And Riley has had far more success than Campbell, if this thread is about in some way comparing the two for that platform.

Depends on what you are hiring for...Campbell has built something...Riley (who I believe is a very very good coach) was handed something! Big difference when comparing "success"!
 

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College HC jobs are far better. You win 8,9,10 games a year... go to bowls... Get paid great... and everyone loves you.

The NFL is "what have you done for me lately"... ask Doug Pederson. He wins a Superbowl and 3 years later he's unemployed.
 

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College HC jobs are far better. You win 8,9,10 games a year... go to bowls... Get paid great... and everyone loves you.

The NFL is "what have you done for me lately"... ask Doug Pederson. He wins a Superbowl and 3 years later he's unemployed.
I agree with you as long as the coach enjoys dealing with recruiting, boosters, academics, 18-year olds, the NCAA, CFP, and all that goes with the college game. Some do not. Guys like Saban, Ferentz, and I believe Matt Campbell clearly do.
 
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You also have to deal with egos and a salary cap in the NFL. Both have their downsides, but if I was established in college and making tons of money, I personally would stay in college. The pay difference is not as big as it used to be and the pressure/turnover in the NFL is crazy.
 
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You also have to deal with egos and a salary cap in the NFL. Both have their downsides, but if I was established in college and making tons of money, I personally would stay in college. The pay difference is not as big as it used to be and the pressure/turnover in the NFL is crazy.
I would go NFL personally. Recruiting can be a grind.
 

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College coaches can last a long time. NFL coaches 10 years or less, on average
 

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And egos are all about selection. Coaches control that in the draft just as they do in college when recruiting. It's something I admire about Saban. He seems to have fine youngsters in his program.

GMs generally have a much bigger say than coaches. They will get the coach's input, but GMs have to work the salary cap.
 

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Yeah he isn't leaving. He's putting roots down in Norman. Building a brand new massive house, has a loaded team coming back with young talent, and he turned down Dallas last year. He's not going to Philly.
 
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The pro players are less teachable and their egos need to be managed. Plus, a number of them make more $ than the coach.... thus some of them don't even respect the coach.

Really instead of calling it a NFL coach, it should be called a NFL manager. The lack of job security is the biggest difference between college and pros.
 
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Riley does seem like a pro guy to me. But Grinch has OU's defense in good shape so they've got to be feeling like a playoff team for next year.

Firing a coach three years after a SB isn't a great look and perpetuates the stereotype of the Philly fans with zero patience which presumably would give a lot of pro guys pause. Maybe they think they can get a college guy to jump...
 

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With the draft you have a pretty good idea where you stand with the first couple picks (with pretty solid backups).
In recruiting you could have some solid top selection verbal to you, than a T or OU sweep in and take them with little effort - that sucks