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Coronavirus Coronavirus: In-Iowa General Discussion (Not Limited)
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Oh I would absolutely agree. But I do think she is being a bit reactive instead of proactive like some states have been.
Perhaps, but so far it's been in line with Iowa's needs. I realize why some want to get more aggressive now, but the next level isn't much more than where we're currently at, and our case growth has been steady vs. exponential. Obviously we aren't testing as many people as we should, but you can extrapolate things from the testing we're doing.
Ames was never that bad when I went to the grocery store, except for Wal-mart. Mostly because most of the hoarding happened right at the beginning of spring break. Of course there were a few days where some of the shelves were empty but not everything.
Ankeny on the other hand is/was a different story.
States like New York, Washington, and Illinois have had to be more proactive than us.
I think that jumping the gun too early could've been a little over the top and maybe what we currently have is working to the extent of not spreading this virus in large crowds, but from a lot of the cases brought to light yesterday, it seems as if this is now spreading in workplaces. Quaker Oats in CR just had a confirmed case. 5 people within care facilities tested positive (which was part of her criteria).
So maybe the decisions she's been making have been good up to this point, but if these cases are still popping up in businesses that are running like nothing is wrong, which is a lot of them, then she needs to take the next step. I've seen numerous stories of people who cannot receive testing because they don't fit into the criteria needed, but they still have to return to work because they won't be sent home unless they test positive. That is not good and will only increase the spread of this.
I know several people who were basically forced to work from home. WFH started off as a strong suggestion but they refused to pack their stuff up and take it home so they had to make them. Seriously, WTF is wrong with people.
No doubt.. Those types of states absolutely need to be more proactive than us. There are also some states with far less people than Iowa who have been more proactive (Idaho and West Virginia). There are areas within Iowa where these cases are predominantly spreading, and I think those areas should probably take action on their own in trying to stop this. Mayors of our larger cities have come out and spoken about doing so, but would rather have Reynolds take initiative. Another large spike in those places and they might not have a choice but to make a decision.
It is what it is, but if we shut everything down for 2 weeks, there will just be a spike in cases once that hard shutdown is over. I think we have handled it just fine, and the important thing is that places that are able to keep working from home do so and retired seniors or higher risk people still continue staying home and distancing themselves if they do go to the grocery store.
Here in WDM the stores appear to have stabilized. They appear to be pretty steady but not like it was two weeks ago. TP and cleaning products/disinfecting wipes are still tough to come by though.
Again I really think you are taking your scenario and extrapolating it much more broadly than it should be. Your examples of Quaker Oats and care facilities still aren’t shutting down regardless. They are absolutely essential businesses.
I be said it before and I will say it again. What we really need is a targeted crackdown on people like your company who are not letting people WFH when they can. All my friends and family have transitioned to WFH who can.
I still think locking people in their houses which is about the only thing left is more harmful than helpful.
There is going to be a spike in cases regardless of whether or not we shut down, but the spread will continue without anything else being done. Yes, the spread is being cut down right now with people working from home and certain businesses not being open, but it's still spreading because there are businesses currently operating as if absolutely nothing is wrong. I'm seeing it with my own eyes in my workplace and I'm hearing it from other people as well.
Agreed completely. I have no resistance to a further shutdown of non-essential businesses either, but I don't know that it was previously needed. I'm on record here saying we will see it in the next few days.
As a said before by others, the number of cases and ability for it to spread is going to of course be more prominent in higher density population areas. However, if some of the more rural areas are not cautious, it could be terrible, as they have limited access to much ICU capacity. So I think for rural communities the outcome could be one extreme or the other.
Isn't that ok though? I mean, the whole idea of "flatten the curve" isn't to eliminate the virus, it's to keep the rate of infection consistent, so the number of people requiring hospitalization is consistent and hopefully below the threshold for what hospitals can handle.
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States that have the lockdown orders still have people going out and working that shouldn't be. It's not being enforced, so what difference does it make? Do we want the military and police to be deployed to start arresting people and dragging them off to detention centers?? Maybe weld apartment doors and windows shut?
Yes Quaker Oats is essential and must operate but they're an example of how it's continuing to spread in work environments. And how do you suppose cracking down on singular companies? How would that work? Lol the only way for that to happen would be for some sort of mandate.
And I'm not for making people stay in their homes. That's incredibly extreme. That's not how a lot of states are operating. Most allow you to leave for essentials, go on walks / exercise, etc. It's about limiting the amount of people in certain areas. I can guarantee you there are work places that have more than 10+ people interacting with one another.
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