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Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Jeremy, Mar 12, 2020.
Did you bring that up to your employer?
That is HIPPA. Not a conspiracy or a republican scam - simply HIPPA.
We are almost at a shelter in place now, however, I think adding one might help in 2 areas:
1) force some companies to do WTF. now as others have said, there will be lots of bending the rules and enforcement will be hard. But, I think some are waiting for the :"official order"
2) We need to discourage large crowds (like people watching the dome go on the courthouse etc) and an official order may help with that
The State is not going to run around flagging down businesses. That's not how that works. They contact county officials who would do that. And no, the state is not going to go on a case by case basis. They didn't do that for bars / restaurants either. You didn't see a bar that only gets 7 people total stay open. They had to shut down as well.
If they do this, they will put out categories of businesses that are deemed essential. If you do not fit into those categories, you must shut down. If you're saying every single business out there currently still working in offices are going to be deemed essential, you'd be wrong. Some businesses will certainly take this mandate seriously and then decide the employees that don't absolutely be there can then work from home. My business falls into that category if we'd somehow be deemed essential.
And again, I go back to, saying "this won't work" or "I can't see how this will work" doesn't make any sense when almost every other state is doing so. I can guarantee you when we saw bars / restaurants close in places outside Iowa, most people were saying "Oh there's no way that'd happen in Iowa. How would they enforce it? What would they do to those who didn't comply?" Well, they did and it's worked.
I certainly understand that it would be a little intrusive to ask what is wrong, but in times like this, it'd be a little important to know if the coworker sitting next to me tests positive for a virus that has caused a global pandemic, or at least is currently showing symptoms.
Yeah, it's gone on like this for so long, workplaces like this think we've been fine up to this point so we'll just carry on and we must be essential.
Until they get an email specifying they must shut down. That's what bar and restaurant owners got. I know multiple bar owners who got that email and said if they did not shut down there would be a large penalty and possibly get stripped of their liquor license.
It's because a bar is a bar. A restaurant is a restaurant. I can't imagine there are too many restaurants that in addition to serving food serve some other vital function. It's easy to qualify their role in society and it's easy to see it's not essential.
Other businesses are much, much more complicated than that. It's not as simple as saying "we do X". Most businesses do "X, Y and Z" and while X and Y may not qualify, Z may. Most businesses provide services for business "A, B and C" , and if my business isn't necessarily essential, but it's essential to keep C going, do I then become essential?
Trying to compare other industries to bars and restaurants is a straw man.
I mean I could make the same argument to bars / restaurants.. Bars and restaurants buy goods from a supplier and that supplier now doesn't have customers and therefore can't pay their manufacturer in which they get their supplies from. It's a similar concept.
I'll only allow it since you post way more frequently than I do
And we're actually a bit different as well lol.
52 new cases in Iowa, 2 deaths (one of which was in Polk County)
But it's not a similar concept. You are talking about people supplying products to a bar and the financial effect it could have on those suppliers. I don't care about the financial effect. I am talking about a business that provides services to other businesses. It's just not as easy as saying most business are or are not essential. Things are so intertwined any more I just can't see any industry that's currently operating not having some role in an essential operation. For every "essential" business, there is human resources, payroll, accountants, logistics, schedulers, legal department, etc.
You are working backwards down the chain I'm working forwards through the chain.
No doubt! It did make me pause for a half second the last time I logged in and saw it haha.
Percentage of positive tests staying consistent in the 6-7% range
They’re only parroting what they hear from the places they get their information from.
yesterday they said 100000 deaths would be considered doing a good job. So that will be the next thing they will tout.
52 more cases for a total of 549. 2 more deaths, which brings that number to 9. Only 2 more hospitalized.
I understand what you're saying, I just don't agree with you saying it absolutely cannot work when 45 other states are doing as such, that's all.