Coronavirus Coronavirus: In-Iowa General Discussion (Not Limited)
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I don't think Governor Reynolds has necessarily done a better job. I haven't kept up with other states, except MN, outside of deaths and cases that have been reported, so this discussion has made me dig into many more and have realized that most of the Stay at Home directives are similar to what we have. I was just curious why posters were getting so wound up since the other states are basically similar to ours but have less testing, more deaths and more cases.
I have not seen the press conferences for today and yesterday due to work. I will look at the last two if I can pull them up and then answer the assertion that she is saying people don't need to stay home if they are not sick. It seems odd to close schools, shutter businesses and such and tell people to feel free to go out.
I guess I don't remember the posts where you have said she has done a good job with any part of this so I may need to reread some posts then.
I look at the hospitalization number, the deaths and see what the amount of positive tests percent of total tests are. That is what I base my opinion of how the leaders of Iowa are doing. So far they seem to be solid compared to other states out there, so therefore I think they are doing a decent job, not great, not terrible.
Randy Pete is doing the math.
Also, it is comforting to know there are so many potential governors on CF.
You guys need to chill with the political insults and blatant bias. Take it to the cave.
Actually, my views on her have nothing to do with her political affiliation and surprising enough, I’m a republican. I just don’t necessarily agree with her tactics so far and think she’s not following her criteria well. I just think she’s being reactionary that’s all.
I think she is thinking a lot about the economy and less about the possibility of endangering more lives because right now we’re not in trouble, however we could end up being in trouble if she doesn’t get a handle of everything.
I just talked to my brother who's got a friend in Minneapolis that works in an ICU.
Don't remember all the details, but they don't have a handle on cases and the sentiment is that's it's about to be just as awful there as anywhere.
Minnesota's on the lower end for numbers but they must be anticipating much worse.
To try to avoid the politics to keep it out of the cave, I will try to stay with what the differences in states are. I read the Ohio directive, and I was wrong it was put in place a week ago not yesterday, and as I went through it it came out pretty similar to what we have. One oddity that i found was that you can go to parks and any outdoor thing (as long as you don't have more than 10 in your group) and use them as much as you want. You can also run errands for people who are unable to run things or at risk of corona. As I read the directive, a lot of the teeth were knocked out of their directive. (Marijuana growers were specifically singled out for exemption for example).
I think this may be the biggest difference in what is being discussed. Some people feel that there is a wide difference between what states like Ohio and Mn have and what Iowa currently has. Some of us don't see much of a difference. I guess that I have held off of going to a few places to get stuff to buy time to see if it improves, but I'm thinking I may go grab the stuff incase some sort of shut down comes along.
http://www.citypages.com/news/minnesota-ordered-to-shelter-in-place-for-two-weeks/569098891
“As of Wednesday, Minnesota has 287 confirmed cases of coronavirus, aka COVID-19, with one death and a dozen people currently in intensive care, up from seven on Tuesday. Under the state's models, Walz said, up to 74,000 Minnesotans would die from coronavirus if the state did not take steps to mitigate social interaction and the virus's spread.”
Okay so I got my information from this article that says at that point of time they had 287 cases and only 1 death. Also, if you read how their governor addressed this, he had a very strong approach. He said you’re not locked in your homes and encouraged going outside, but also said if you choose to not abide by his mandate, you can be fined / thrown in jail. He also said he mandated even the essential businesses to work from home to help with social distancing.
I texted my sister about the last sentence. Her husband is required to go into work as an essential employee (government worker, management level) and my sister is optional and she is not what I would come close to labeling essential.
“Workers in healthcare, law enforcement, food and agriculture, energy, public utilities, journalism, banking, childcare, education, construction, and hotels, among other industries, are exempt from the work-from-home mandate.
This is pretty much what you were supposed to be doing anyway.”
It’s a difference without a distinction. Other than the threat of a fine.
Yeah like someone mentioned before, there are still going to be places that absolutely cannot work from home and also places that don't end up following through.
I'm not 100% sure if this is true, but I believe they stopped construction now as well.
Also, I'm sure people would be less inclined to go against our governor's recommendations if there was a penalty involved. Even if there was no jail time.
Yeah, my BIL would be an easy WFH person IMO. MN government just says he needs to go in. So it appears that even MN doesn't have a harsh directive.
Somebody else mentioned this. If you don't follow the orders, are they really going to put you in jail? They are letting out what they consider to be lighter criminals because of this so what is the probability that they jail a person?
I think the 90 days in jail would be for those who are not following the rules over and over again, or the people that cause a disruption. I have a hard time believing they'd throw someone in jail because they were in a group of people that was too large. But yeah, doesn't really make THAT much sense to throw them in jail for a very minor offense while also letting out people with minor offenses lol.
Thanks for clearing that up. Maybe they were talking about somewhere else, but I thought they said Minnesota. I was under the influence that construction was an essential business for most states.
I have no idea why people think a shelter in place in Iowa is worth the paper it’s written on. Iowans live in comfortable living quarters not on to of each other. My in-laws live in Colorado, which is on “lockdown” and they say everyone is treating it like any other day, out and about. Same goes with California, people think it’s just PTO and are having a great time outside together. Unless we call in the military it takes people taking ownership to enforce the shelter in place. I saw someone comment on this, Reynolds says she is not opposed to shutting down portions of the state rather than the whole state.
Have you seen the video of the hospital ship coming in to dock in NYC(NYC!)?
There was a group of about 250-300 people there watching. I mean crowded together, shoulder to shoulder. Some channel was there doing a live feed. Unfortunately, some of the onlookers were on-duty NYPD. Well, some city official noticed this, got on the horn to the Chief, who then contacted the cops on site and told them to disperse the crowd. Lol. You couldn’t make this **** up.
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