Coronavirus Coronavirus: In-Iowa General Discussion (Not Limited)

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  1. wxman1

    wxman1 Well-Known Member

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    Also 1 new death here in Linn County.
     
  2. Rabbuk

    Rabbuk Well-Known Member

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    In addition to the one from earlier?
     
  3. Cyched

    Cyched Minister of Culture
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    Not much new in the governor's presser today outside of reporting the new numbers.
     
  4. CycloneRulzzz

    CycloneRulzzz Well-Known Member

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    Today had lower case numbers than the last few days which is somewhat encouraging.
     
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  5. riceville98

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    I would agree but, I'll be happier when we get 3-4 days of tends in fewer numbers
     
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  6. cmjh10

    cmjh10 Well-Known Member

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    You 2 arent allowed to talk to each other in back to back posts. Thought Rulzzz was talking to himself.
     
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  7. deadeyededric

    deadeyededric Well-Known Member

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    So it's not Greenwich, CT? I just thought it was a classier way to say Eastern Standard.
     
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  8. BCClone

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    It looks like yesterday may have been an outlier if tomorrow’s are done. Would be a hold at least.
     
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  9. CycloneRulzzz

    CycloneRulzzz Well-Known Member

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    Though to be fair below our avatars Riceville is a bookie and SuperFanatic and I am not.
     
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  10. ISUAgronomist

    ISUAgronomist Well-Known Member

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    You are The SuperFanatic though!
     
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  11. Acylum

    Acylum Well-Known Member

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    They’re still not expecting to peak for 2 weeks.
     
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  12. ImJustKCClone

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    If Rulzzz ever opts for super fanatic status and becomes a bookie, we're screwed! :D
     
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  13. NENick

    NENick Active Member

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    But a well-deserved screwing!:confused:
     
  14. mtowncyclone13

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    Can someone give me a medical answer here? If the average incubation time is 5.3 days, with a 98% chance after 11.5 days, where are all of the new cases coming from? Not tests that were taken a week ago and published now, but the actual cases? Most things have been shut down for two weeks, and with the exception of the grocery store or fast food, how is this being spread that the peak is still "two weeks out"?

    Are grocery stores and hyvee spreading it, is the incubation time longer than what doctors have thought, or something else? Is the peak is in two weeks that means the majority haven't even caught it yet.
     
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  15. ImJustKCClone

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    Just a guess, but I suspect people (college students AND families) returning from spring break trips are starting some of the new outbreaks in the region.
     
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  16. Acylum

    Acylum Well-Known Member

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    The easy answer is to imagine how much worse it would be by doing nothing. The more complicated answer involves the r naught (usually written as r⌀) which for SARS-CoV-2 is generally believed to be somewhere around 2.4 right now. This means that every person infected passes it on to an average of 2.4 people. Then those people 2.4 each pass it on to 2.4 people and so on. So even after restrictions are put in place, there are still people out there passing it on. For comparison, the Spanish flu of 1918 is believed to have had an r⌀ of +/- 1.8, the measles virus was around 12 (twelve, not 1.2) or 14 IIRC.
     
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  17. aeroclone

    aeroclone Well-Known Member

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    That 2 week comment seemed to be in regards to peak deaths. It seems like for people who die they do so a week or more after symptoms appear. Add that to a nearly one week incubation period and I guess that would mean we are expecting those people are contracting the virus right about now. Agreed that still seems odd that we may be at peak contraction now when lots of things have already been closed for a couple weeks.
     
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  18. cycloner29

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    Makes you wonder what this will do to health care costs going forward.
     
  19. cycloneG

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    How many people that have to be in an ICU for weeks are going to have financial issues going forward? Who's paying for all these medical costs?
     
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  20. cycloneG

    cycloneG Well-Known Member

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    #2540 cycloneG, Mar 30, 2020
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    It's a jab at the current health insurance system. People that don't have health insurance have died from Covid because they couldn't pay for treatment. I'm curious what health insurance covers for people that have extended ICU stays. Someone has to pay for it. The government doesn't pay for it.

    https://time.com/5806312/coronavirus-treatment-cost/

    A new analysis from the Kaiser Family Foundation estimates that the average cost of COVID-19 treatment for someone with employer insurance—and without complications—would be about $9,763. Someone whose treatment has complications may see bills about double that: $20,292. (The researchers came up with those numbers by examining average costs of hospital admissions for people with pneumonia.)
     
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