Chicago Bears bought Arlington Heights track only to build next to Soldier Field?

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I hate downtown stadiums. No parking and all of that. I would rather spend 20 or 30 bucks to park by the stadium and be able to not worry about taking transit. It's also freazing in Chicago for half the season and it's miserable trying to get to the stadium if you don't have a spot.
Like Arlington Heights is gonna somehow be warmer? Walking across a parking lot is just as cold as walking to the train station.
 
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We don't need more "Lifestyle centers" in the suburbs designed to extract as much money out of your wallet as possible.

There is a perfectly good downtown right freaking there. More stadiums need to be built in downtowns and make them more accessible by walking/transit.
I'm with you for baseball and downtown arenas but for football give me tons of parking in the 'burbs.
 
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Yes, they are looking to build a domed stadium, just South of Soldier Field. It will still be Chicago Park District property though. I understand it's a beautiful location, but it has zero pre-game entertainment opportunities as it's all park/expressway/trains around that area.

"Friends of the Parks" stopped them from building the Obama Library, which actually included a lot of stuff to actually help citizens. I can't imagine a new stadium taking up more park space is going to go over well with them.

The Bears have to be one of the worst run organizations in the NFL. They are all about immediate savings and tax breaks instead of building something for the future. They won't be able to own anything immediate to Soldier Field. Passing on Arlington is a dumb idea, imo. And this coming from a guy who lives near Arlington Park, isn't crazy about the Bears going there and it would make my life a nightmare at times.
Obama library is being constructed near university of Chicago in Jackson park. The friends nixed the George Lucas museum next to soldier.

Your point stands. Current location is going limit a lot of amenities and the ownership is the worst. Still a pain getting to games. That walk from red line to stadium in November and December will suck.

This whole fiasco is soo bears.
 

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It will be interesting to see how this plays out. It's my understanding the Soldier Field renovation isn't even close to being paid for.

Now the Bears are going back to the public well for funding? Will this need to pass a vote? Are the Bears shortsided in not having their own SoFi or AT&T in AH? With team control and ownership?

I have full faith the Bears and they dying state will **** it up. 100% until proven otherwise
Yeah, I'm curious how much they're going to look for in public financing and how the public/private ownership and funding would work. The Bears previously said they'd put up $2B for the project, which I'd think would cover a pretty good chunk of it.

Maybe 5-6 years ago a developer bought the air rights over the Metra tracks south of Roosevelt and west of LSD. I've no idea where that project stands, but it would basically bridge the South Loop neighborhood right to the new stadium's doorstep. If the Bears wanted to get a piece of the development around the stadium, that would be their chance. It's basically a mile long strip to develop between Roosevelt and McCormick place.
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If the city is going for this, they should to commit to expanding CTA access to Museum Campus and McCormick Place. I know the parking situation for game day around Soldier is bad, but the answer (IMO) should not be more parking. Make other transit options better. Don't make Soldier like the Meadowlands, or Arrowhead. A venue in a sea of parking lots. It sucks for everyone and is a waste of space.

A dedicated route that would connect the Loop to Museum Campus and McCormick Place lowers the need for cars to attend Bears games, conventions, visit Field, Shedd, and Adler, or reach Burnham Harbor and Northerly Island.

Something like this: Use the Orange/Green line in the loop, follow the Green south to 55/Stevenson Expy, go east along Stevenson/25th St, then go North following the McCormick Place Busway with a northern terminus at McFetridge Ave.

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Yeah, I'm curious how much they're going to look for in public financing and how the public/private ownership and funding would work. The Bears previously said they'd put up $2B for the project, which I'd think would cover a pretty good chunk of it.

Maybe 5-6 years ago a developer bought the air rights over the Metra tracks south of Roosevelt and west of LSD. I've no idea where that project stands, but it would basically bridge the South Loop neighborhood right to the new stadium's doorstep. If the Bears wanted to get a piece of the development around the stadium, that would be their chance. It's basically a mile long strip to develop between Roosevelt and McCormick place.
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When the Hard Rock Casino didn't win the casino bid, the development lost a lot of potential funding. Haven't heard much since then.

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If the city is going for this, they should to commit to expanding CTA access to Museum Campus and McCormick Place. I know the parking situation for game day around Soldier is bad, but the answer (IMO) should not be more parking. Make other transit options better. Don't make Soldier like the Meadowlands, or Arrowhead. A venue in a sea of parking lots. It sucks for everyone and is a waste of space.

A dedicated route that would connect the Loop to Museum Campus and McCormick Place lowers the need for cars to attend Bears games, conventions, visit Field, Shedd, and Adler, or reach Burnham Harbor and Northerly Island.

Something like this: Use the Orange/Green line in the loop, follow the Green south to 55/Stevenson Expy, go east along Stevenson/25th St, then go North following the McCormick Place Busway with a northern terminus at McFetridge Ave.

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The One Central plan included a new CTA station right there. Along with a new bus line and Metra and Amtrak connections.
 

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We don't need more "Lifestyle centers" in the suburbs designed to extract as much money out of your wallet as possible.

There is a perfectly good downtown right freaking there. More stadiums need to be built in downtowns and make them more accessible by walking/transit.
This is what always cracks me up with suburban stadiums and suburban "urban" developments. People want to be away from whatever they perceive the city as but then those municipalities have to spend millions to build a fake downtown so they feel hip and cool. When all of that infrastructure already exists organically in the city center.
Like that Prairie trail area in Ankeny... you're like 15 minutes from downtown Des Moines yet they gotta build their own fake one. I get it's more convenient and to each their own but seems wasteful.
 

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If Chicago (CTA) made one dedicated line from downtown to Shedd, Adler, Northerly Island, and Soldier Field, it would be 100x more convenient for all of those places.
I agree, but that would require the city to spend money on infrastructure. The city of Chicago just rakes in the cash via tourism, high taxes, red light and speed camera and parking tickets, now weed, now gambling. But it always amazes me going to the airport and travelling on the public transportation how far Chicago is behind most other major cities. Where is all that money going?
 

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I agree, but that would require the city to spend money on infrastructure. The city of Chicago just rakes in the cash via tourism, high taxes, red light and speed camera and parking tickets, now weed, now gambling. But it always amazes me going to the airport and travelling on the public transportation how far Chicago is behind most other major cities. Where is all that money going?
Pension debt is probably the biggest hole.
 
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Obama library is being constructed near university of Chicago in Jackson park. The friends nixed the George Lucas museum next to soldier.

Your point stands. Current location is going limit a lot of amenities and the ownership is the worst. Still a pain getting to games. That walk from red line to stadium in November and December will suck.

This whole fiasco is soo City of Chicago.
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Doing anything in the the cesspool that is the City of Chicago will cost you 100 times what it will cost you anywhere else. Costs a lot of grease all of the politicians etc. This is partially why the Cubs almost left.
 
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I hate downtown stadiums. No parking and all of that. I would rather spend 20 or 30 bucks to park by the stadium and be able to not worry about taking transit. It's also freazing in Chicago for half the season and it's miserable trying to get to the stadium if you don't have a spot.
Opinions are opinions and I get it - but there’s a reason why people travel to go see Wrigley and Fenway and Yankee stadium opposed to Kaufman stadium in KC just surrounded by a whole lot of concrete parking lots. IMO I like to have something in the center of town that I can take transit to and have a good time before/after and not just hop back in a car and wait in traffic
 

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Opinions are opinions and I get it - but there’s a reason why people travel to go see Wrigley and Fenway and Yankee stadium opposed to Kaufman stadium in KC just surrounded by a whole lot of concrete parking lots. IMO I like to have something in the center of town that I can take transit to and have a good time before/after and not just hop back in a car and wait in traffic

Dodger Stadium and Angel Stadium are both surrounded by parking lots.

The KC example could be because the Royals are in a small market and generally suck.

I do enjoy a city environment, but easy parking isn't a bad deal either.