I'd like a serious discussion on what people think of us turning to just trying to pay better recruits to come in along with using roids. Lol. I'm not kidding. Why not take the chance? What's the worst that can happen? Hell Penn st. Destroyed dozens of children's lives for years and lost a few schoolies and missed bowls for two years, who cares? They also are having incredible recruiting classes. Makes no difference. Might as well cheat and roll the dice. I know probably stupid post but I do feel that had we done it right with our cheating under Criner 25 years ago and gotten away with it and won the big 8 a few years a couple years in a row or so your program is then established.