In the 21st Century, marketers figured out that rage sells even better.
Somewhere CatStevens is sharpening a pitchfork.
In the 21st Century, marketers figured out that rage sells even better.
I’m still trying to figure out who the players are on the current team and this is the top basketball thread. I guess hate is stronger than love.
Not finding anything concrete, but according to basketball reference https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/lucca-staiger-1.htmlWhat ever happened to that guy?
Somewhere CatStevens is sharpening a pitchfork.
Yes, that's right, don't even say it. You are relentlessly attacked for stating facts about season records. However, it is perfectly acceptable to mock the guy who never had a single losing season after taking over the program in its darkest days. It's like some people care more about certain coaches than the Iowa State program as a whole.I will always die on the Morgan hill. Perhaps it was a sentient move, but curious to me that the only time we acted proactively when cracks were shown was with the coach who's...ah nevermind.
Hopefully one day, all this Prohm bashing will run it's course and we can celebrate our good fortunes that we now have in basketball.
I go a step further and place inordinate amount of blame on Larry, as his acts and behaviors negatively impacted ISU more than most.Yes, that's right, don't even say it. You are relentlessly attacked for stating facts about season records. However, it is perfectly acceptable to mock the guy who never had a single losing season after taking over the program in its darkest days. It's like some people care more about certain coaches than the Iowa State program as a whole.
Yes, he was the highest risk and highest reward and objectively we experienced both from him. I was at Iowa State when that all happened.I go a step further and place inordinate amount of blame on Larry, as his acts and behaviors negatively impacted ISU more than most.
Guys like Steve/McD, tried their best and it was what it was. Larry took us to the top, but his choices and character sabotaged it and it's a much greater embarrassment than having a really bad losing season.
Agreed. Meanwhile, in Iowa City, they're still blaming Lickliter for the Hoks being unable to get past the 2nd round in the Tourney.The longer Steve has been gone, the more I'm convinced he was never actually here.
I'm just wondering if you are giving Wayne the benefit of the doubt coaching Larry's guys, but don't give the same credit to Steve. If I heard right in my circles the reason Wayne was hired was to keep Stinson, Blalock, Vroman, Homan, and the recruits in Clark and Carr. By Wayne's 3rd year we were barely above .500, recruits were nothing to be screaming about, and we had a new AD that wanted his staff.Yes, he was the highest risk and highest reward and objectively we experienced both from him. I was at Iowa State when that all happened.
Does feel a bit like a bad dream at this point.The longer Steve has been gone, the more I'm convinced he was never actually here.
That is some good revisiting of history there. Morgan did a great job maintaining Larry's roster of guys. Got them to stay and got them to play well a lot of the time. Seems like the wheels fell off in what was Stinson and Blalock's junior year. The team returned so much talent from the '05 team (minus Homan), and just fell flat on their faces. It was odd Morgan didn't get at least another year to try and figure it out. Holy crap did he recruit a lot of flame-outs. McDermott did too, though.I'm just wondering if you are giving Wayne the benefit of the doubt coaching Larry's guys, but don't give the same credit to Steve. If I heard right in my circles the reason Wayne was hired was to keep Stinson, Blalock, Vroman, Homan, and the recruits in Clark and Carr. By Wayne's 3rd year we were barely above .500, recruits were nothing to be screaming about, and we had a new AD that wanted his staff.
I'm not here to argue, both coaches deserved to go. Steve got a longer leash because he was Jamie's hire and there were some costs and excuses around COVID that Jamie was hoping would be reversed. We didn't feel we could afford to get rid of Steve.
All I know is that I'm glad Otz and the owner of this site were good buddies.
Same the fallout his last two seasons were pretty unmagical.Yes, he was the highest risk and highest reward and objectively we experienced both from him. I was at Iowa State when that all happened.
I will always die on the Morgan hill. Perhaps it was a sentient move, but curious to me that the only time we acted proactively when cracks were shown was with the coach who's...ah nevermind.
Poor choice of words there, no that is not what I meant. Fixed it now.You're saying my post was revisionist?
Halftime - Murray looking real good, up 7.Is this going to become the new Prohm tracker thread?
Here is an update:
Coach Prohm has got the Racers of Murray State off to a 1-1 start. They got shellacked by Saint Louis 91-68 in their opening game, but bounced back with a nice 90-53 win over NAIA powerhouse Lindsey Wilson. Ranked foe Texas A&M on deck Thursday afternoon. Myrtle Beach Invitational.
Prohm looks healthier, well rested.Halftime - Murray looking real good, up 7.
Go Racers!