I've talked to him quite a bit (the guy is the only person I know that sleeps less than I do) and he really is a true Clone fan now. I think when he first got into the media business he was a Hawk fan just because but after doing interviews at ISU and working with people around campus, he's come to the light. I'm not somebody to ever defend a person but I think Jonathan's in it for the right reasons, regardless of what he's said or done in the past to turn some people off. He's far more vocal than I am and he goes on the radio where I've turned it down so I can't blame him for drawing criticism on to himself. It's part of being a public-facing person and I'm sure we'd all do or say something that not everybody is going to agree with. I'm just looking towards the future and trying not to dwell on the past.