***BYE & Arkansas State weekly discussion thread***

TitanClone

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Woof…I know Michigan isn’t that good this year, but Ark State really showed up. As someone else said we'd best come out as our best selves or we will get slapped up side the head. And Iowa…wow…they look like crap (its end of first half). Last week's win may not be as big as we thought.
Michigan ran all over Ark State and only gave up 60 rushing yards. I only watched bits of the game but they didn't really show up. Michigan just doesn't have a passing game. They're a rich man's Iowa. The last touchdown and 2 point conversion were in garbage time to. Our offense should be able to put up a lot of points next Saturday.
 

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I watched the Michigan game and am watching the Iowa game. How’s that for a response to a dumb question?
lol if you watched the game you’d know that the UM QB threw 3 picks, which Rocco won’t do, and they scored on the backups. Not worried at all. Also, you willingly watched the Iowa game?
 
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It’s still going to be a tough game Saturday and we’ll need to bring it. I hope we’re ready and we don’t think they’ll just come out and roll over.

A win of 10 points or more would be a solid performance.
 
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It’s still going to be a tough game Saturday and we’ll need to bring it. I hope we’re ready and we don’t think they’ll just come out and roll over.

A win of 10 points or more would be a solid performance.
Agreed. ISU still has a lot of areas to improve and usually play pretty bad coming off of bye weeks.
 

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Michigan has an even worse QB situation than Iowa. Don’t know how that program couldn’t scrape someone better out of the transfer portal this year.
They have two 4/5 star QB’s sitting on the bench, one is either going to get the nod at some point or risk transferring out. Starting a walk on at QB for Michigan is going to get Moore on a hot seat very quickly
 
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lol if you watched the game you’d know that the UM QB threw 3 picks, which Rocco won’t do, and they scored on the backups. Not worried at all. Also, you willingly watched the Iowa game?
Well…does that mean Ark State has a good pass defense? If not, then you could make the same case that Iowa's QB is just bad and our pass D isn’t much to talk about. It’s easy to see what you want in games, but Ark State looked fairly tough playing in Michigan. We can def beat them and should…but we'd best come out prepared and ready from minute one.
 
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The Iowa game was kind of like the ND game in that you can't take a whole lot away from it to predict the rest of the season.

This is Week 4 and all sorts of teams can start to find their footing if things haven't been going that well prior.

Hopefully ISU is sharp and has some guys starting to heal up.
 

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The number of close games we lost in 2022 was pretty crazy. I define "close" as one-score games:

Baylor 31-24
Kansas 14-11
Kansas State 10-9
Texas 24-21
Oklahoma State 20-14
Texas Tech 14-10

Excepting the TCU blowout, we gave up an average of 16 points per game, gave up 14 points points or less in 7/11 games, and went 4-7 in those games, that's wild.
 

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The number of close games we lost in 2022 was pretty crazy. I define "close" as one-score games:

Baylor 31-24
Kansas 14-11
Kansas State 10-9
Texas 24-21
Oklahoma State 20-14
Texas Tech 14-10

Excepting the TCU blowout, we gave up an average of 16 points per game, gave up 14 points points or less in 7/11 games, and went 4-7 in those games, that's wild.
True that. A lot of those losses can pinned on way too conservative play calling.
 

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The number of close games we lost in 2022 was pretty crazy. I define "close" as one-score games:

Baylor 31-24
Kansas 14-11
Kansas State 10-9
Texas 24-21
Oklahoma State 20-14
Texas Tech 14-10

Excepting the TCU blowout, we gave up an average of 16 points per game, gave up 14 points points or less in 7/11 games, and went 4-7 in those games, that's wild.

That season is my bell weather in determining that the program has solid footing.

Lots of new players at important positions after a short era of some nice seasons, and they were a handful of plays away from 6-7 wins. As opposed to other post-success ISU teams that would get drubbed regularly.
 
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The number of close games we lost in 2022 was pretty crazy. I define "close" as one-score games:

Baylor 31-24
Kansas 14-11
Kansas State 10-9
Texas 24-21
Oklahoma State 20-14
Texas Tech 14-10

Excepting the TCU blowout, we gave up an average of 16 points per game, gave up 14 points points or less in 7/11 games, and went 4-7 in those games, that's wild.
Baylor 31-24 — closer than it really was
Kansas 14-11 — 3 missed FGs from < 40 yds
Kansas State 10-9 — multiple empty drives in KS territory
Texas 24-21 — Hutchinson drops a wide open game winning TD
Oklahoma State 20-14 — Noel drops a wide open go ahead TD
Texas Tech 14-10 — Clones go scoreless on 2 first and goal possessions due to inane play calling

Win 3 of the last 5 and that’s a 7-5 bowl team, same record as the preseason top 10 team from 2021. Just an agonizing season.
 

madguy30

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Baylor 31-24 — closer than it really was
Kansas 14-11 — 3 missed FGs from < 40 yds
Kansas State 10-9 — multiple empty drives in KS territory
Texas 24-21 — Hutchinson drops a wide open game winning TD
Oklahoma State 20-14 — Noel drops a wide open go ahead TD
Texas Tech 14-10 — Clones go scoreless on 2 first and goal possessions due to inane play calling

Win 3 of the last 5 and that’s a 7-5 bowl team, same record as the preseason top 10 team from 2021. Just an agonizing season.

The bolded with this context is the only one that comes down to play calling (not to say ISU's play calling/approach has been favorable but that's on the whole).

I remember essentially the same play like 3-4 times in a row vs. Tech with nothing being played off of it.

The rest is ISU not making the plays.
 
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Arkansas St playing Michigan tough is the perfect scenario as long as we can take care of business. Playong them following another power school takes its toll. Hopefully we can take advantage. Elite QBs don't phase our defense..We need to keep throwing it down the field and carving them up underneath.
 

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Arkansas St playing Michigan tough is the perfect scenario as long as we can take care of business. Playong them following another power school takes its toll. Hopefully we can take advantage. Elite QBs don't phase our defense..We need to keep throwing it down the field and carving them up underneath.
Alas, I’m pretty sure that there’s not a single person watching film at the SPC today who thinks that ASU played Michigan “tough”.
 

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I don't get why Georgia just automatically stays #1 because they won?

They always say that winning margins matter, if for nothing else just because of the "eye test". If the "eye test" matters... and teams try to run up the score on another team because of that... then it should also matter if you don't win by much at all IMO. A "win is a win" is not necessarily true.

IMO... Texas, Ohio State, and Alabama have all looked more impressive than Georgia... just using the "eye test". Maybe not Ohio St since they haven't beaten anyone with a pulse yet... but Texas absolutely destroyed Michigan, and Alabama destroyed Wisky. Georgia did NOT look like the best team in the country last night at all... and that was against an unranked Kentucky team that got their a** kicked the week before by South Carolina.