You can discount it as much as you like but they beat a combined seed in KStates 2 games of 24, ours was 25, pretty comparable...30 wins is great but it’s still Arkansas Little Rock, we caught a break just like KState did, still counts the same
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You can discount it as much as you like but they beat a combined seed in KStates 2 games of 24, ours was 25, pretty comparable...30 wins is great but it’s still Arkansas Little Rock, we caught a break just like KState did, still counts the same
I would point out that 12, 13 seeds are still likely top 50 teams.
Little Rock was 56th in KenPom that year. UMBC is 166th now after beating Virginia. I'm not saying we didn't catch a break playing Little rock but it's not really comparable
Yes and they played a tougher first rd opponent...agree to disagree
Weber is a good coach. I don't like him because he's just incredibly whiney.
He’s a good coach, not a great coach, but way better than this board gives him credit for.
They will be very good next year - top 3 in the conference IMO.
They will be very good next year - top 3 in the conference IMO.
If he's a good recruiter and a good coach why did it take until year 6 to get out of the first round of the tourney?
If he could recruit he'd still be at Illinois
Weber get the most out of his player and has developed lowly ranked players. There ceiling with him as coach is limited due to his recruiting. That is a Webber not KSU issue as Huggy Bear and Frank M/ have gotten highly ranked players to Manhatten. Bruce is a solid X-O's coach but he will only take you so far in a P-5 conference and their fans know that thus call for his job almost every year.
As for the knee jerk results over one tourney run we need to relax. Martin beat Creighton and UMSB, lucky break perhaps but colleges don't get to pick who they play only the selection committee does that. We shouldn't discount any Sweet 16 appearance just because they didn't upset a better team.
For those discrediting Prohm's Sweet 16 run, just realize ISU earned a 4 seed to play 13 and the second round is a 12/5 match-up one of the most common upsets in the sport. It isn't uncommon for the 4 seed to get to week 16 by beating a 13 and 12.
As for the knee jerk results over one tourney run we need to relax. Martin beat Creighton and UMSB, lucky break perhaps but colleges don't get to pick who they play only the selection committee does that. We shouldn't discount any Sweet 16 appearance just because they didn't upset a better team.
For those discrediting Prohm's Sweet 16 run, just realize ISU earned a 4 seed to play 13 and the second round is a 12/5 match-up one of the most common upsets in the sport. It isn't uncommon for the 4 seed to get to week 16 by beating a 13 and 12.
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And while we knew he was a good coach then, its now obvious Chris Beard is a really good coach.
Before I say this, I want to reiterate that Kansas State has a very good season. They obviously kicked our ass twice. Bruce did a very good coaching job. Through good play and good fortune, they earned a trip to the sweet 16.
However, it is interesting to me that Kansas State has not beaten a sweet 16 team this year. Iowa state beat 2.
However, it is interesting to me that Kansas State has not beaten a sweet 16 team this year. Iowa state beat 2.
He did win an outright Big 12 regular season championship.
Outright? It was shared.
Since then, regular season has been: 5th, tied for 6th, 8th, 6th, 4th.
I think he is referencing the fact that if the KU @ ISU game wasn't a total meltdown of officiating that year KSU would have won outright with KU a game behind.
Maybe I guess but he didn't say that. And I hope KState isn't approaching aTm for delusional history lessons if not.
