ThisHe’s the best QB in school history and will be on the Mt Rushmore of ISU players. Everything else is semantics.
ThisHe’s the best QB in school history and will be on the Mt Rushmore of ISU players. Everything else is semantics.
Brock is quite a bit better than Seneca lolthe other #15 was pretty good , what if Seneca had this team
Agreed but it’s going to be hard to debate next year when he obliterates every QB stat in ISU history.
This is a case of recentism but it's intriguing.Brock is quite a bit better than Seneca lol
Seneca had more interceptions than touchdown passes at Iowa State.This is a case of recentism but it's intriguing.
Nothing against Jack Whitver, Lane Danielson and Hiawatha Rutland... but we will never know what Seneca would do with David Montgomery, Breece Hall, Hakeem Butler and Charlie Kolar. Not to mention Coach Heacock's defense.
Seneca had more interceptions than touchdown passes at Iowa State.
He only completed 55% of his passes as a senior and had 18 INTs to 15 TDs
This isn't recentism. Brock is like way better than Seneca was and it's really not even close
Seneca had more interceptions than touchdown passes at Iowa State.
He only completed 55% of his passes as a senior and had 18 INTs to 15 TDs
This isn't recentism. Brock is like way better than Seneca was and it's really not even close
Hard to disagree. Seneca turned the ball over a lot though. That translates IMOIf we are talking stats then yes, Brock is way better and will blow them all away once he's done. He has so many better players around him to make plays.
If you put them on the same field with the same players? I'm not sure I can say 'Brock is quite a bit better than Seneca lol'. It's fun to imagine though.
Seneca was considered the best back up QB in the pros for a long time. If Brock brings home the B12 title we can talk.Brock is quite a bit better than Seneca lol
I won't argue for or against Brock at this stage in his career, but. . .
ISU QB records are/were absolute trash.
There may have been more athletic players, or better arms, or better stories, but pound-for-pound, looking at the body of work, #15 is the greatest to ever don the cardinal and gold. It was true before today and now it has been affirmed.
NopeThere may have been more athletic players, or better arms, or better stories, but pound-for-pound, looking at the body of work, #15 is the greatest to ever don the cardinal and gold. It was true before today and now it has been affirmed.
I love Seneca. Have his jersey. Autographed football in a case. Trust me this isn't shade on Seneca. Brock is a better college QB thoughSeneca was considered the best back up QB in the pros for a long time. If Brock brings home the B12 title we can talk.
Kirk Cousins? that's about as random as it gets.That's like saying if Kirk Cousins played for the 2010 Saints he'd be a better QB. You only have what you have and your actions are shaped by those on your team. Any variable may change the way you approach preparation or execution.
Don't get caught up purely on the college stat sheet though. Do you think Todd Bandhauer or Bret Meyer were better college football players than Seneca Wallace?Somebody said because Seneca was a good backup for a decade in the NFL that makes him a better quarterback while he was at Iowa State. thank you for confirming the NFL has nothing to do with college football production.
True, but being around this team, including a really good defense vs what past QBs had is more than just a minor variable.That's like saying if Kirk Cousins played for the 2010 Saints he'd be a better QB. You only have what you have and your actions are shaped by those on your team. Any variable may change the way you approach preparation or execution.
True, but being around this team, including a really good defense vs what past QBs had is more than just a minor variable.
I do think Purdy is the best QB in ISU history, but it’s really hard to compare, especially vs a guy like Wallace. The game was on Wallace’s shoulders, and anything less than magic and ISU lost. There was never the luxury to “not try to do too much.” If he didn’t do too much ISU lost.
I agree Brock is better, but it’s apples to oranges when you are handing off to Hiawatha Rutland and throwing to walk-ons from Dike and Grinnell.Hard to disagree. Seneca turned the ball over a lot though. That translates IMO