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Discussion in 'Football' started by ChrisMWilliams, Feb 24, 2018.
Congrats to Tom, but is a TE Coach a big upgrade over P5 Offensive Coordinator?
If you want to be in the NFL it is.
His college teammate is now his boss after being a NFL position coach last year and starting as a quality control guy. Manning as a P5 OC didn’t even get a call for that.
Or barney cotton?
We will see if CMC can avoid the pitfall Dan had - replacing coaching talent.
Kind of unreal really. We win a whopping 7 games in the regular season and go to a relatively crappy bowl after winning only 3 games the year before.... and boom.... there goes our RB coach and our OC.
I've never seen a team's assistant coaches get poached more for doing less than past ISU assistant football coaches have. You'd think we won the National Championship or were at least in the playoffs last year. Geeesh.
People will almost always go where the better opportunity takes them. This isn't exclusive to ISU, or college sports (true for every business really).
We poached most of Toledo’s staff just two years ago...
We have a young staff. A position coach went home after four years here and the other left for a great opportunity on the NFL track. I don’t see anything unusual or abnormal.
Yes, it's the NFL. The big stage.
Get used to it.
Bummer to lose him but confident Campbell finds as seamless of replacements as possible.
In these situations I always feel for kids like Downing & Ramos that chose ISU in large to get coached by Manning.
But, that's the nature of the business.
At least we don’t have a huge recruiting weekend!! Oh, wait.
Manning leaving sucks of course, because staff continuity is key. That said, good for Tom Manning he gets an opportunity at the big time.
Not that this had any impact on Tom's decision. But with the current uncertainty circling CBB, any changes made there will probably effect CFB as well. So don't think some coaches won't be looking for a steady ship, until all that gets sorted out.
Great opportunity for him. Sucks to lose him but I can't blame him for jumping at a chance in the NFL.
I wonder if he'll pound the table for Lazard in the draft when Indy comes up in the third or fourth round if he's there.
Toledo has a long run of being really good. We don't. We have a bad 3 win season with these coaches, and a little over .500 regular season and somewhat mediocre bowl game.... and all of the sudden people are coming for our assistants.
Manning coached an ISU team that never threw to the TE's.... so it makes total sense that an NFL team would be drooling over him as their TE coach, right? Our defense was 43rd in the country (in an offensive happy league), and our offense was 86th in the country (in a defensive optional league). Defense won us games, not the offense. Our OL coached by Manning created a rush offense ranked 116th in the country.
Don't get me wrong, I was glad we had Manning and I don't want to see him go, but what he's done here so far doesn't exactly scream NFL material. Not yet anyway. After looking at all these stats, maybe we can actually improve on this assistant coaching position?
I'd rather us be in a situation where our assistants are getting poached instead of having mediocre assistants that are related to the head coach.
I have to admit that I'm really bummed about losing Tom Manning, particularly because of his expertise with offensive lines. And it really surprised me as we are poised to have a great year and he could rightfully take tons of the credit. So, why did he leave?
Doesn't like coaching college athletes? Nope, he seems to thrive in practices and camps from what I can tell.
Family in Indiana? None that I can tell. Wife is from Ohio.
Hates Iowa? Doubt it. Who could hate Iowa (the state, not the team out east).
Not getting along with the head coach? No evidence that I've seen.
I think it comes down to a unique opportunity in the NFL via the Mount Union cult. If his ultimate goal is to coach in the NFL, then it makes sense to seize the opportunity of a Mount Union guy taking the Colts job. With Manning's success in college football, he will always have opportunities to come back, but he might never have another opportunity in the NFL with a fellow Mount Union guy. I've known some Mount Union football people and they are a unique breed (as seen with Matt Campbell here). I doubt we lose Manning at this time for anything other than something unique like being with a Mount Union coach of a midwest NFL team. Just too hard for him to pass up. Hope it works out for him, but also hope that he really misses being part of Iowa State next year.
Sometimes you have to look at what people are working with.