Blum: Four's a Crowd

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  1. brentblum

    brentblum Brett Blume
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    Got to thinking about an interesting parallel between this group of Cyclones and Tim Floyd's first group in 94-95, including the big 3 of Hoiberg, Meyer and Julo (the original Big Silky.) Enjoyed writing this one.

    https://cyclonefanatic.com/2018/02/blum-fours-a-crowd/
     
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  2. pulse

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    I always thought a good comparison would be to Prohms first team. Like Floyd he inherited a ready made team with a lot of great experienced players.

    Reminds me of one of Johnnys great quotes following the train, "nothing good ever happens after midnight".
     
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  3. FinalFourCy

    FinalFourCy Well-Known Member

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    Floyd was a hell of a college coach in his prime. It’s a shame he wasted many of those years in the pros.
     
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  4. pulse

    pulse Well-Known Member

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    I had to see if I could look it up and through the magic of archiving:

    "We tell them all the time never to be out," Orr said. "There is no reason to be out after 12. Nothing good ever happens then. Every time something bad happens, it always seems to me it's after 12."
     
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  5. madguy30

    madguy30 Well-Known Member

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    The win/loss results feel more like Fred or Eustachy's first team.

    Hopefully next season is somewhere in the middle of their 2nd seasons.
     
  6. cyclones500

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    I admit I was unaware of Floyd's "touch the basketball" rule with those 3 players. It's kind of "Hoosiers"-esque.
     
  7. FinalFourCy

    FinalFourCy Well-Known Member

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    Very Floyd like.

    Fred told the story of how Floyd would chew him out for things he didn’t do, just to scare other guys enough to stop.
     
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  8. Iastfan112

    Iastfan112 Well-Known Member

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    Amusing that this article was posted right before the Kansas game where Jackson and Wigginton went a combined 4/21 whereas everyone else(minus Lard) went a combined 18/27.

    In general I disagree with some of the premise of this article. Wigginton, as talented as he is, is shooting less than 40% inside the arc, that's pretty bad. Jackson's rate is even worse. Yet they're taking an average of 12 of these low value shots a game.

    Looking at this shows the value a healthy Babb has as well as he's making better than 50% in the same situation, the only guard this year who can say that.
     
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  9. FinalFourCy

    FinalFourCy Well-Known Member

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    Totally agree, although there’s something to be said about Kobe assists.

    Imo it’s by design more than it is that those three need to- those three by position and designed role should be taking the most shots. If they’re not getting shots it means they’re not getting open and our offense is derailed. Talley has two games really weighting things, and Young rarely shoots as a primary option. How many of Babb’s shots are due to the offense failing and him having to do something? Lard wasn’t available for two of our losses, but I trust Blum removed that from the data set.
     

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