Big XII "negative-biased"?

JustRedman

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I'm curious as to what you guys think of this.
Do you feel the Big XII scoring offenses go against some of our teams when they "only" win by 14-21?
If Stanford wins 28-10 it is a good win. If TCU or Baylor win 38-20 it is unimpressive. Is our offensive productivity hurting the Big XII because our top teams are expected to win by 30?
Just something I've been wondering about.
 
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Conferences just don't like the Big12 plain and simple. Smaller conference. Play a different style. Just different. There is an SEC bias, and a brand name bias. Big12 doesn't have any of that right now. Everyone wants super conferences, and think the Big12 is ruining that.
 

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Any win against the team that I saw play against Texas Tech that is NOT by more than 30 points should be measured as an embarassment for any good team. That defense. That offense. Watch out....you might get what you're after....cool baby.
 

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not really. Different styles, yes but hard to disagree w/those that think it's the, or close to, the lowest power 5 this year.
 

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I'm curious as to what you guys think of this.
Do you feel the Big XII scoring offenses go against some of our teams when they "only" win by 14-21?
If Stanford wins 28-10 it is a good win. If TCU or Baylor win 38-20 it is unimpressive. Is our offensive productivity hurting the Big XII because our top teams are expected to win by 30?
Just something I've been wondering about.

Well it works the other way too. Baylor wins 66-10 it is very impressive. Especially because Stanford doesn't win 66-10.
 

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I'm curious as to what you guys think of this.
Do you feel the Big XII scoring offenses go against some of our teams when they "only" win by 14-21?
If Stanford wins 28-10 it is a good win. If TCU or Baylor win 38-20 it is unimpressive. Is our offensive productivity hurting the Big XII because our top teams are expected to win by 30?
Just something I've been wondering about.

I don't think the bias is the point total - I think it's the teams that are on top of the conference standings that are the problem.

It seems that Baylor HAS to win by 40+ points for analysts/reporters to wrap their minds on why they are on top of the conference instead of OU and Texas. Same thing happened when Tech was whooping everyone under Mike Leach. At the end of the day, the Big 12 will always be focused on OU/Texas.

Now, if Baylor/TCU can keep this up for 10+ years, maybe then they will get some legitimacy.
 

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I don't think the bias is the point total - I think it's the teams that are on top of the conference standings that are the problem.

It seems that Baylor HAS to win by 40+ points for analysts/reporters to wrap their minds on why they are on top of the conference instead of OU and Texas. Same thing happened when Tech was whooping everyone under Mike Leach. At the end of the day, the Big 12 will always be focused on OU/Texas.

Now, if Baylor/TCU can keep this up for 10+ years, maybe then they will get some legitimacy.
This.
If you switch around TCU and Baylor last year with jerseys that said Texas and OU, we get at least 1 and maybe even 2 teams in the playoff.
It's not Big 12 bias, but rather Big School bias.
 

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Conferences just don't like the Big12 plain and simple. Smaller conference. Play a different style. Just different. There is an SEC bias, and a brand name bias. Big12 doesn't have any of that right now. Everyone wants super conferences, and think the Big12 is ruining that.

Ticket sales and fans don't seem to indicate that though. As much as we like to give Iowa crap for their ticket sales - would you buy season tickets to that home slate? I wouldn't. Regional rivalries are super important to college football and super conferences kill that. I think the next round of conference realignment in a decade is just as likely to be bigger conferences shedding members as it is to be further consolidation.
 

CyBobby

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This.
If you switch around TCU and Baylor last year with jerseys that said Texas and OU, we get at least 1 and maybe even 2 teams in the playoff.
It's not Big 12 bias, but rather Big School bias.

U B rite but I would call it Tradition Biased as in who has the most Tradition of Winning Culture....aka OU and Texass
 

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I'm curious as to what you guys think of this.
Do you feel the Big XII scoring offenses go against some of our teams when they "only" win by 14-21?
If Stanford wins 28-10 it is a good win. If TCU or Baylor win 38-20 it is unimpressive. Is our offensive productivity hurting the Big XII because our top teams are expected to win by 30?
Just something I've been wondering about.

I think this is a good question but not the most important question.

Reality is 3 conferences run college football and have 2-3 people on the committee including some legendary figures. Then the ACC and Big 12 only have one no name representative.

Until that changes only Oklahoma or Texas will get a fair look from our conference. Will be really interesting to see how they handle Clemson if the final rating were today, and remember all the other weekly rankings are just nonsense because they can drop a team 3 spots on the last day for little to no reason.