Big 12/PAC 12 strategic alliance...

[dahliaclone]

No more FCS cupcakes.

No more Group of Five opponents.

It’s one Power Five against another: 30 head-to-head matchups, season after season.

Discuss...

https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/02...nferences-should-embrace-the-future-together/

 

[Tre4ISU]

It'd be awesome. It'd also hurt as long as none of the other conferences were changing.

 

[SCNCY]

So long the other power 5 conferences follow the same rules, that'd be awesome. However, we still have current problems with the SEC only playing 8 conference games, they need to move up to 9 before we can begin talking about scheduling more power 5 teams.

 

[cloneteach]

Would make much more sense in basketball than football.

 

[crash_zone]

Wouldn’t you want the alliance to be with the BIG10? If we are going to drop the non power 5 games, might as well make them as easy as possible?

 

[KnappShack]

Last time "strategic alliance" was tossed around those dirty pricks tried to poach Texas and Oklahoma.

**** the PAC 8-10-12. Let them form an alliance with Hawaii and show their games to no one at 11 pm

 

[coolerifyoudid]

This seems like a better deal for the PAC-12 than the Big XII.

I wouldn't mind setting up one rotating ooc game against a PAC-12 team versus a MAC team or Iowa, but I like having a couple warm-up home opportunities to get our players going before conference play. Besides, I'm not in the mood to help a conference that tried to rip us apart and continues to mismanage itself.

Like the article says, Texas and Oklahoma already schedule teams like Notre Dame, Ohio State, etc. Neither one of them will jeopardize those match-ups for lesser ones. And OU and UT's votes are going to weigh more heavily than the rest.

 

[dahliaclone]

I first reaction was: The PAC 12 100% gains by associating with us on something like this. I am not sure we do.

 

[Chitowncy]

 

[harimad]

To enter this, we would have to drop our annual Cy-Hawk game. I'm not sure I like that idea at all. It would also erase any chance of rekindling Texas-TAMU, the Border War, etc.

 

[ForbinsAscynt]

Do we really want to hitch our wagon to that horse?

 

[KnappShack]

These guys need help because their own fans don't give a crap about their sports. I hate to say it but realignment is coming again, and we want that conference to be in as bad of shape as possible. A scheduling alliance would likely give their Pac 12 network more pull because you KNOW they'd throw their home games on it. No way we should ever agree to this. Plus, people will call me a pansy, but we need to be scheduling worse not better.

Plus, this would virtually guarantee no Big 12 teams in the playoff. This is just crazy talk.

And how did that guy not come up with a decent plan to convince the Arizona schools to jump?

"Here's your PAC $$, travel requirements, and game times. Here's what the Big 12 can offer"

Wouldn't it be just that straight forward?

 

[CYphyllis]

It would be naive for the B12 to ever trust them again. It's not like Larry Scott was overly quiet about the real reason behind the last scheduling alliance between the two conferences.

From a business standpoint, **** 'em. Let them starve for a few more years and pick off what you want from the heap.

 

[knowlesjam]

It would be naive for the B12 to ever trust them again. It's not like Larry Scott was overly quiet about the real reason behind the last scheduling alliance between the two conferences.

From a business standpoint, **** 'em. Let them starve for a few more years and pick off what you want from the heap.

Exactly this. Pac 12 can EBOD given their attempts at piracy with Texa$ and Oklahoma. And given Larry Scott's brilliant marketing attempt, I'd be suspicious of any agreement with them.

 

[awd4cy]

I read it wrong at first. Yea I want no part of this. Wouldn’t mind scheduling 1 Pac 12 game in each football and basketball, but I want no part in this alliance.

 

[Cyforce]

Make more sense if we expand to 12. Play 8 conference, 4 pac12s.

 

[Althetuna]

The only thing I'd like is a basketball tournament like the Big 12-SEC challenge. Otherwise, I'm not seeing it.

 

[HFCS]

The Pac threat turned out to be utter nonsense. But SEC and Big Ten poaching threat were real and still exist.

The way this makes some sort of sense is if it locks the 22 schools into a permanent agreement or some sort of decades long grant of rights. That's what would make it worth the Big 12 teaming up with the Pac given the current state of the B12 being better off financially.

The SEC is basically two completely different football conferences at this point because of their refusal to schedule a 9th game. It wouldn't be that different than our football title game being B12 winner vs Pac winner...maybe slide one team over to make it even 11s.

 

[CloneFan4]

**** an alliance, let's raid them.

 

[Remo Gaggi]

Exactly this. Pac 12 can EBOD given their attempts at piracy with Texa$ and Oklahoma. And given Larry Scott's brilliant marketing attempt, I'd be suspicious of any agreement with them.

Ok, what does EBOD stand for? Sorry, Remo hasn't heard that one before ...