Are the new 4 schools guaranteed entry into the Big 12?

jdoggivjc

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What is the point of tying two state schools together? Apparently Oklahoma tried that now you’re saying Washington is going to try that? I’ve heard similar things about Arizona. Obviously the state of Iowa never did that

One of the reasons why VA Tech is currently in the ACC is because the state of Virginia successfully pulled this off when the ACC was picking apart the Big East. Perhaps VA Tech was a shoe-in anyway, but the state's threats to tie things up didn't hurt the cause.
 

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So many schools are getting a free ride in The Big 10 & SEC just because they were there ahead of time. Will there be any incentive for the bottom half to compete with the big names or will they just collect their pay checks?
 

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Man, I am thankful for Matt Campbell. Can you imagine going through this with our old football program and a basketball program trying to get its legs back? Give that man a raise!
Shout out to Pollard too. He took to heart the first Conference Missile Crisis 10 years ago and once got the new B12 money invested in the facilities and program to make ISU a value add to a conference if instability occurred again. We are still fighting for survival as a legit P4 program but at least now we are bringing a gun to the gun fight as opposed to our fists we did the first go around.
 

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Shout out to Pollard too. He took to heart the first Conference Missile Crisis 10 years ago and once got the new B12 money invested in the facilities and program to make ISU a value add to a conference if instability occurred again. We are still fighting for survival as a legit P4 program but at least now we are bringing a gun to the gun fight as opposed to our fists we did the first go around.
I would hate to see where the state of ISU athletics would be without Jammie Pollard.
 
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Shout out to Pollard too. He took to heart the first Conference Missile Crisis 10 years ago and once got the new B12 money invested in the facilities and program to make ISU a value add to a conference if instability occurred again. We are still fighting for survival as a legit P4 program but at least now we are bringing a gun to the gun fight as opposed to our fists we did the first go around.

I'm ready to read his book when he retires
 

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I would hate to see where the state of ISU athletics be without Jammie Pollard.
The guy is a lock for the ISU athletics Mt Rushmore for sure. The growth and development of our programs, facilities, and fanbase during his tenure has been remarkable. If we come out of all this realignment nonsense in good shape you could drop the athletics part and make a case for him on the general ISU Mt Rushmore.
 

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Yes. I do wish they'd invite AZ, ASU, and Utah...then a day later send the Colorado invite. Colorado is what started the initial exit from the Big 12. Heard that Wash St. and Oregon St won't be left out of any more Washington and Oregon make. They're a package deal.

Sorry Cal and Stanford, you don't bring much.
Stanford is a top 5 AD in the country.
 

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Stanford is a top 5 AD in the country.
Stanford is a powerhouse AD by every measure except the ones that matter for realignment. They sponsor a huge number of varsity sports and are a national power at many of them. But this all comes down to fielding a good football team, and drawing eyes to your football games. And in that capacity, Stanford has not been very strong.
 

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Stanford is a powerhouse AD by every measure except the ones that matter for realignment. They sponsor a huge number of varsity sports and are a national power at many of them. But this all comes down to fielding a good football team, and drawing eyes to your football games. And in that capacity, Stanford has not been very strong.
Is Stanford's fall in football relevance due to a lack in recruiting due to high academic standards? Surely not just based on attendance, or is it? Because we all know they have a beautiful campus/surroundings/weather/etc.
Guess I'm remembering how good they were when they snockered Iowa in the Rose Bowl- sorry, not a bash, it just sticks in one's mind.
 
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Do we not consider Ore and Wash just because they may then bolt? Shouldn't we talk? See if we can tie them in solidly?
Seems like skipping the best is silly even if that's where it'll end up. If those two are holding out then so be it.
 
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Do we not consider Ore and Wash just because they may then bolt? Shouldn't we talk? See if we can tie them in solidly?
Seems like skipping the best is silly even if that's where it'll end up. If those two are holding out then so be it.
How do these realignments actually work? I mean, I know schools apply, then conference votes to accept them. But....what keeps them from bolting for some better offer? Assume they sign a contract but for how long? Is it binding enough, considering the money some will pay to do about anything regardless if there would be an early exit fee$ ,etc.
 

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Do we not consider Ore and Wash just because they may then bolt? Shouldn't we talk? See if we can tie them in solidly?
Seems like skipping the best is silly even if that's where it'll end up. If those two are holding out then so be it.
If Oregon and Washington don’t go to the B1G, obviously you take them. Sign the GoR and move on for the next ten+ years.
 

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Do we not consider Ore and Wash just because they may then bolt? Shouldn't we talk? See if we can tie them in solidly?
Seems like skipping the best is silly even if that's where it'll end up. If those two are holding out then so be it.

Of course you take them, but only on our terms - ie "sign the GoR with Big12 or no thanks".
That's why you go get the Mountain 4 first - puts pressure on them. They probably would still wait until the B1G says no, but at least you lean on them and make them sweat it out.
 

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Some reports indicate ASU and Colorado are not interested.
This is far from over - imho
They'll be firmly entrenched until they're gone.

Especially right now since it seems like the PAC 12 is looking at media rights valuations.
 
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They'll be firmly entrenched until they're gone.

Especially right now since it seems like the PAC 12 is looking at media rights valuations.
Yep. They'll go through the motions of seeing what can be brought to the table, but without UCLA & USC, the pickings are going to be slim, and that makes an already bad situation worse. It's hard to imagine a scenario where it is more lucrative to stay, unless TV execs just burn down their own house with a silly offer.
 
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