Another Funding Cut

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  1. cyclone87

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  2. ArgentCy

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    You know I like ISU as much as most people but $908.4 million dollars is a heck of a lot of money to spend on an institution that producers lots of young adults with little added value to the market and huge debt burdens.

    Higher education has been cut at least somewhat but the real whole in the pocket book is the $3.73 Billion going to K-12.

    Flame away.

    This little nugget is curious and BS though. "require county auditors to arrange candidate names on the ballot in descending order based on previous election results"
     
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  3. 3TrueFans

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    Why do we spend any money on education? The kids could just learn it all on Youtube.
     
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  4. ArgentCy

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    They could and some are. It's called unschooling.
     
  5. cyclone87

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    $908.4 mill is the entire regent budget, I think ISU only gets about $160 mill or so of that. Increasing tuition will only increase the debt burden. Remember State support has been gradually decreasing with tuition increasing for quite some time, it's not like there is run-away spending here.
     
  6. 3TrueFans

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    Is that similar to my 'unwork' philosophy?

    How long have you been using the unschooling method?
     
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    Tuition (and fees...lots of fees) will continue to climb as long as the students are willing to go further into debt and the government is willing to loan money. The problem is that the government is perfectly willing to keep paying more in loans...thus there is no firm check on tuition and fees and the debt continues to climb. Eventually you will reach a tipping point...we might be getting close.
     
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    Maybe some of the $million that Branstad saved on Medicaid could be used on education- oh wait. Only did it not save any money, we gave them millions of dollars to help bail them out financially. :mad:
     
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  9. carvers4math

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    Iowa State provides the highest number of graduates who stay in state and are a taxable income base. Seems a bit like biting the hand that feeds you at some point.
     
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    Man just when i think you can't say anything dumber, you go and top it.
     
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  12. ArgentCy

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    I try. It will be interesting watching this public debt bubble disintegrate. Interesting times.
     
  13. ArgentCy

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    Seriously though, it is time to take a step back and realize that this isn't working and not sustainable. It is time to step back and let the free market and all of the kids, parents, teachers, higher education schools, and employers innovate and find better ways of educating kids.
     
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    I don't understand why people in this country just don't get this simple fact: government funding has to come from a revenue source. If that source doesn't make money then you need to adjust your government spending or find new sources of revenue. At least the state of Iowa is trying to be fiscally responsible, unlike the federal government that just seems to find ways to spend instead of ways to pay for it.

    I expect the state to get some improvement in funds if they can figure out a way to capture more sales tax on internet sales. They got Amazon, which is huge, but there is still a lot of lost revenue from other internet merchants that they would love to have.

    I will agree that the lag in the AG industry certainly have a lot to do with the state's financial troubles.
     
  19. carvers4math

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    If you follow revenues that the state takes in periodically, the corporate tax cut becomes the clear source for the drop in revenue.
     
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    I think they could still do a better job on the expense side. My friend's wife has been an art professor for about 20 yrs. She drives up from Des Moines three days a week to teach. He told me that if she works 10 more yrs until she's 62 she'll receive $140K/yr in pension plus medical benefits. Not bad for essentially part-time work teaching a liberal arts subject. That number floored me.
     

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