All-Big 12 Awards

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  1. Buster28

    Buster28 Well-Known Member

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    Wow, they managed to screw over Seanna, big-time (imo). Honorable Mention. Bridget got 1st team. Jadda was an Honorable Mention as well.

    http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_LANG=C&ATCLID=211508497&DB_OEM_ID=10410

    2016-17 Phillips 66 All-Big 12 Awards
    AWARD RECIPIENT
    Coach of the Year:
    Karen Aston, Texas (5th season at Texas, 10th overall)
    Player of the Year: Brooke McCarty, Texas, G, 5-4, Jr, League City, Texas
    Defensive Player of the Year: Brianna Taylor, Texas, G, 5-9, Sr, Houston, Texas
    Newcomer of the Year: Jessica Washington, Kansas, G, 5-8, Jr, Tulsa, Okla.
    Freshman of the Year: Joyner Holmes, Texas, G/F, 6-3, Cedar Hill, Texas
    Sixth Man Award: Lauren Cox, Baylor, F, 6-4, Fr, Flower Mound, Texas

    All-Big 12 First Team (honors listed alphabetical by school)
    Player
    School Pos Ht Cl Hometown
    Kalani Brown ** Baylor C 6-7 So Slidell, La.
    Alexis Jones **^ Baylor G 5-9 Sr Irving, Texas
    Bridget Carleton ** Iowa State G 6-1 So Chatham, Ontario, Canada
    Breanna Lewis %^ K-State C 6-5 Sr Milwaukee, Wis.
    Kindred Wesemann > K-State G 5-6 Sr Pleasant Hill, Mo.
    Kaylee Jensen > Oklahoma State C 6-4 Jr Genoa, Nebraska
    Ariel Atkins > Texas G 5-11 Jr Duncanville, Texas
    Joyner Holmes Texas G/F 6-3 Fr Cedar Hill, Texas
    Brooke McCarty **^ Texas G 5-4 Jr League City, Texas
    Tynice Martin ** West Virginia G 5-10 So Atlanta, Ga.

    All-Big 12 Second Team
    Player
    School Pos Ht Cl Hometown
    Nina Davis +!^ Baylor F 5-11 Sr Memphis, Tenn.
    Alexis Prince Baylor G 6-2 Sr Orlanda, Fla.
    Jessica Washington Kansas G 5-8 Jr Tulsa, Okla.
    Peyton Little + Oklahoma G 5-11 Sr Abilene, Texas
    Vionise Pierre-Louis Oklahoma C 6-4 Jr Lake Worth, Fla.

    All-Big 12 Honorable Mention
    Jadda Buckley (Iowa State), Seanna Johnson (Iowa State), Maddie Manning (Oklahoma), Gabbi Ortiz (Oklahoma), AJ Alix (TCU), Kelsey Lang (Texas), Recee' Caldwell (Texas Tech), Ivonne CookTaylor (Texas Tech), Lanay Montgomery (West Virginia), Teana Muldrow (West Virginia)

    Big 12 All-Defensive Team
    Player
    School Pos Ht Cl Hometown
    Kalani Brown Baylor C 6-7 So Slidell, La.
    Alexis Prince Baylor G 6-2 Sr Orlanda, Fla.
    Breanna Lewis @< K-State C 6-5 Sr Milwaukee, Wis.
    Ariel Atkins Texas G 5-11 Jr Duncanville, Texas
    Brianna Taylor Texas G 5-9 Sr Houston, Texas
    Lanay Montgomery @< West Virginia C 6-5 Sr Pittsburgh, Pa.

    Big 12 All-Freshman Team
    Player
    School Pos Ht Cl Hometown
    Lauren Cox *** Baylor F 6-4 Fr. Flower Mound, Texas
    Eternati Willock *** K-State F 6-4 Fr. Scarborough, Ontario, Canada
    Chelsea Dungee Oklahoma G 5-11 Fr. Sapulpa, Okla.
    Joyner Holmes *** Texas G/F 6-3 Fr. Cedar Hill, Texas
    Brittany Brewer Texas Tech F 6-4 Fr. Abilene, Texas

    A tie created a sixth spot on the All-Defensive Team
    *** Unanimous Selection (coaches cannot vote for own players, unanimous denotes selected for team on other nine ballots)
    ** Unanimous First Team Selection (coaches cannot vote for own players, unanimous denotes voted first team by other nine coaches)
    ^ 2015-16 All-Big 12 First Team
    > 2015-16 All-Big 12 Second Team
    + 2014-15 All-Big 12 First Team Selection
    % 2014-15 All-Big 12 Second Team Selection
    ! 2013-14 All-Big 12 First Team Selection
    < 2015-16 All-Defensive Team Selection
    @ 2014-15 All-Defensive Team Selection
     
  2. mred

    mred Well-Known Member

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    Bridget was even unanimous, a big honor for her.

    Seanna and Jadda both suffered from the fact that you can't put all three on the first team given that ISU isn't a top tier team overall. I think voters decided Bridget was the best of the three and largely left the other two off.
     
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  3. Buster28

    Buster28 Well-Known Member

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    Not arguing that Bridget didn't deserve recognition. Seanna finished the regular season leading the team in scoring and rebounding and was 4th in the league in both, but was not worthy of being either 1st OR 2nd team? BS.
     
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    Seeing Nina Davis relegated to the 2nd team speaks volumes.
     
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  5. runbikeswim

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    Brook McCarty, player of the year? ummmm....ok....

    appears to me, Texas got bumped in some things because of the baylor drama
     
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  6. Sigmapolis

    Sigmapolis Well-Known Member

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    How can a "First Team" have ten players?
     
  7. bawbie

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    Seanna bested Bridget in Points, Rebounds, Assists, FG% and 3Pt%. But Bridget is unanimous 1st team and Seanna is HM?

    that makes no sense at all
     
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    Yeah, its possible she was the third best player in the conference. A first teamer in all but her senior campaign......
     
  9. brett108

    brett108 Well-Known Member

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    Seanna was undervalued. That being said Carleton shot 70 more threes and was less than a percentage point lower in 3pt %. And while she ended with seven less points her averages were better in Big 12 play, against much stiffer competition.Their statistics are almost interchangeable, which is why its weird that the All Big12 teams look like they do. Seanna was forgotten it appears.
     
  10. NWICY

    NWICY Well-Known Member

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    Congrats to Bridget. But Seanna got screwed over.
     
  11. gizzsdad

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    It would be interesting to know the All-Big 12 selection procedure. We know they are voted on by the head coaches, but not much more. I've never attended a college All Conference meeting, but did participate in many HS meetings.

    At the HS level, the protocol was usually having the coaches nominate, by order of conference placement, how ever many athletes they thought were worthy of first team honors. Generally, coaches in the lower half would be reluctant to nominate for first team, unless they had an exceptional player on an otherwise unexceptional team. When nominating, coaches would have a brief opportunity to explain why their athletes were worthy. After all nominations were in - the coaches would vote by paper ballot and the votes would be counted and announced.

    Then, for second team, the process would be repeated, and coaches could re-nominate players that did not make first team if they desired, or they could nominate different players. Then vote, tally and announce.

    Then, for honorable mention, coaches could place two deserving players, often seniors, occasionally a promising underclass player. No voting.

    In looking at the All-Big 12 awards, it almost makes me wonder if the teams nominate once, and the top ten are first team, and the next five are second team. Typically, higher placed teams have some unspoken leeway to nominate more athletes, with the proviso that if they go too far, they will end splitting the votes among them and risking dropping them a little. Perhaps Baylor may have gotten all three on first team if they had stuck to three?

    Just speculating - perhaps MRed knows more about the actual process??
     

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