Agents of S.H.I.E.LD.

mapnerd

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So who is May going to look for in the next episode? Maria something? Does anyone have a guess who that is?
 

RyCy04

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My money is Ward ends up being good and the Hydra agent on the team is either Fitz or Simmons. And out of those two, my guess is Simmons. Triplett made a comment to Simmons a couple episodes back about being a bad liar. She responded, and I am paraphrasing, "Yes, but I am getting better at it." That made me think she will be revealed as a double agent at some point. Also, those two are way too bumbling to not have their ineptitude as a cover for at least one of them.
 

CyinCo

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My money is Ward ends up being good and the Hydra agent on the team is either Fitz or Simmons. And out of those two, my guess is Simmons. Triplett made a comment to Simmons a couple episodes back about being a bad liar. She responded, and I am paraphrasing, "Yes, but I am getting better at it." That made me think she will be revealed as a double agent at some point. Also, those two are way too bumbling to not have their ineptitude as a cover for at least one of them.

Ward shot and killed highly ranking Agent Hand (along with many other Shield Agents). Do you really think he would do this simply to maintain cover in Hydra? Seems extreme. He also just killed Oswalt's character. I don't see how they could ever have a scenario where we find out Ward is with the good guys. That is too much bloodshed of agents.
 

RayShimley

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Ward shot and killed highly ranking Agent Hand (along with many other Shield Agents). Do you really think he would do this simply to maintain cover in Hydra? Seems extreme. He also just killed Oswalt's character. I don't see how they could ever have a scenario where we find out Ward is with the good guys. That is too much bloodshed of agents.

Not to mention he brought the hidden Gravitonium in the Fridge to Hydra's attention. What motive would he have for doing that as a double agent? My guess is that Ward does not survive the end of this season. Killing off major characters in shocking ways is getting trendy in TV series.
 

RyCy04

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Ward shot and killed highly ranking Agent Hand (along with many other Shield Agents). Do you really think he would do this simply to maintain cover in Hydra? Seems extreme. He also just killed Oswalt's character. I don't see how they could ever have a scenario where we find out Ward is with the good guys. That is too much bloodshed of agents.
I have watched enough Whedon shows in my day to know that these beyond the point of no return scenarios are rarely the case.
 

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My money is Ward ends up being good and the Hydra agent on the team is either Fitz or Simmons. And out of those two, my guess is Simmons. Triplett made a comment to Simmons a couple episodes back about being a bad liar. She responded, and I am paraphrasing, "Yes, but I am getting better at it." That made me think she will be revealed as a double agent at some point. Also, those two are way too bumbling to not have their ineptitude as a cover for at least one of them.

I can't remember exactly what she had said right before that but IIRC she had just told a lie but for a good reason.
 

The_Architect

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Finally watched the last two episodes, really enjoyed them both. I agree Ward has gone way too far off the reservation to be a double agent. Loved that they brought in Blackout too.
 

RyCy04

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Finally watched the last two episodes, really enjoyed them both. I agree Ward has gone way too far off the reservation to be a double agent. Loved that they brought in Blackout too.
Just a reminder that this is a Whedon joint. Using Buffy as an example: 2 of the biggest villains in that show (Faith and Spike) turn out to be 2 of the biggest heroes in the end.
 

CyCloned

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I can't see Ward making it much further, and there is no way they can let him be a double agent after all the killings, plus the weapons and all the bad guys he let get away. I suppose they could make all the people killed Hydra double agents, but then Hydra would probably not want him around much longer.

Now he is with Skye, and he will either get what he wants or kill her, and she is way to hot to kill off. I suspect that the black guy that has tagged along will replace Ward as the young, good looking male interest in the series.
 

cyrevkah

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That's what I was thinking too.


I could see this as a way to open up stories for further seasons: catching the bad guys again as well as writing Ward out. It isn't like whatever interest Ward/Skye have has been around long enough to be a draw to watch the show (which is great). Or it could be getting Ward a larger part in the show as a main bad guy.
 

RayShimley

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Another solid episode. It looks like next week will be at least partially a Ward "origin story". I've now softened my stance on whether Ward will turn back to good at some point, but now I'm leaning more towards he ends up sacrificing himself to save the team.
 

State43

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Another solid episode. It looks like next week will be at least partially a Ward "origin story". I've now softened my stance on whether Ward will turn back to good at some point, but now I'm leaning more towards he ends up sacrificing himself to save the team.

That's best case scenario. I gagged a bit when she agreed to help to save Wards life. I would have watched him die with a smile.
 

RyCy04

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Fitz and Simmons by the pool where Fitz tells Simmons something along the lines of he would not be able to live if she was Hydra. She says she isn't and blah blah blah. That scene screams to me that one of them is the real mole/threat/double agent or whatever.