It's painful to see how much better Kagavi's design is. Even more painful to think that Pollard would never give up his sacred I-State logo. I definitely resent him for his old fashioned approach to design and marketing, along with his inability to use CF as a FREE and EASY source for what he should have done with that respect. Lastly ISU has one of best design schools around, why are we not giving some kid a scholarship or grant for designing the winning new logo? I could go on...