AAC and Sun Belt raiding C-USA

[cyIclSoneU]

I completely missed the memo about WAC resurfacing for football. From what I gather on-the-fly, it's FCS with goal to move up to FBS "later in the decade"?? Any word about that process? (I'm curious if, given recent developments, if that'll happen).

The WAC wants to get to FBS as quickly as possible. Within the first half of this decade. They will have 8 members (since everyone expects NMSU to join them) and I think it's fairly likely that if C-USA gets decimated here by the Sun Belt, UTEP will be WAC school #9.

 

[cyclones500]

The WAC wants to get to FBS as quickly as possible. Within the first half of this decade. They will have 8 members (since everyone expects NMSU to join them) and I think it's fairly likely that if C-USA gets decimated here by the Sun Belt, UTEP will be WAC school #9.

Thanks for info. UTEP totally belongs in WAC, compared to anywhere else. I agree C-USA will die on the vine unless there's an influx of schools jumping from FCS to FBS.

 

[deadeyededric]

Where is SDSU going to end up? I drove by their stadium site last week when I was out there and it's gonna be a great venue!

 

[1UNI2ISU]

Thanks for info. UTEP totally belongs in WAC, compared to anywhere else. I agree C-USA will die on the vine unless there's an influx of schools jumping from FCS to FBS.

The WAC needs to add UTEP, Texas State and Northern Arizona and that gets them a nice tidy 12. Texas State is on an island in the Sun Belt now.

 

[cyman05]

The WAC wants to get to FBS as quickly as possible. Within the first half of this decade. They will have 8 members (since everyone expects NMSU to join them) and I think it's fairly likely that if C-USA gets decimated here by the Sun Belt, UTEP will be WAC school #9.

Not only does the WAC want to move to FBS but the new Atlantic Sun is supposedly trying to move to FBS as well. Not sure if any of those schools are ready to move at this time should C-USA ask?
Interesting that as the gap widens financially between the big boys and others that the number if FBS schools continues to grow. You’d have to imagine some sort of split occurs in the future, right?

 

[1UNI2ISU]

Not only does the WAC want to move to FBS but the new Atlantic Sun is supposedly trying to move to FBS as well. Not sure if any of those schools are ready to move at this time should C-USA ask?
Interesting that as the gap widens financially between the big boys and others that the number if FBS schools continues to grow. You’d have to imagine some sort of split occurs in the future, right?

The thing that has always made sense is that the P5 split off and do their own 65 team thing.

Then the G5 plus the MVFC, Big Sky, CAA and new WAC form their own level with 72-75 scholarships and their own 32 team playoff.

It makes so much sense that only us message board idiots can see it.

 

[cyIclSoneU]

The thing that has always made sense is that the P5 split off and do their own 65 team thing.

Then the G5 plus the MVFC, Big Sky, CAA and new WAC form their own level with 72-75 scholarships and their own 32 team playoff.

It makes so much sense that only us message board idiots can see it.

Agreed, although there soon will be 69 Power 5 programs. Nice

 

[heitclone]

The WAC wants to get to FBS as quickly as possible. Within the first half of this decade. They will have 8 members (since everyone expects NMSU to join them) and I think it's fairly likely that if C-USA gets decimated here by the Sun Belt, UTEP will be WAC school #9.

Wouldn't that add like 4 more Texas schools to the FBS?

 

[cyIclSoneU]

Wouldn't that add like 4 more Texas schools to the FBS?

It would add five: Abilene Christian, Stephen F. Austin, Lamar, Sam Houston, and Tarleton State. That would bring the count of Texas FBS programs to 17!

There are Texas FBS schools in the SEC, Big 12, Sun Belt, C-USA, American, and soon to be WAC. That would be 6 of 11 FBS conferences, and 17 of about 140 FBS schools.

 

[JD4560]

When UNI wrestled in the MAC there were some very preliminary discussions but they never went anywhere. UNI is a disaster right now from an athletic administration standpoint so it's probably best that it didn't happen.

Once Ben Jacobson leaves after this year (he's incredibly unhappy), UNI becomes a doormat in The Valley and, most likely, never recovers. The glory days of UNI Athletics have been over for a while and we're just waiting on that final nail.

UNI wrestling I think is probably doing pretty decent yet isn't it? I mean Schwab is from Osage and gets a lot of decent to good instate kids so people still follow it I would think. I know a lot of people in my area do. I've noticed the following for football in the dome just isn't what it used to be. That place used to be packed all the time and now I saw a picture of one of the home games and I think they fill up more in the high school playoffs.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

UNI wrestling I think is probably doing pretty decent yet isn't it? I mean Schwab is from Osage and gets a lot of decent to good instate kids so people still follow it I would think. I know a lot of people in my area do. I've noticed the following for football in the dome just isn't what it used to be. That place used to be packed all the time and now I saw a picture of one of the home games and I think they fill up more in the high school playoffs.

Wrestling is in good shape. They've got their own booster club and pretty much run their own show and the department leaves them alone.

The Dome looked like a Class A semifinal after halftime last weekend. It's real bad.

 

[AlaCyclone]

Where is SDSU going to end up? I drove by their stadium site last week when I was out there and it's gonna be a great venue!

The Aztecs are safely in the MWC now.
I don't see them going anywhere else.
Looking forward to a game at their new stadium!

 

[Scruff]

MAC and SBC should each take enough of CUSA to disband it. Those schools should then write a joint letter to the American granting them the rights to use the name Conference USA because it would be hilarious.

 

[cyIclSoneU]

 

[cyIclSoneU]

C-USA will now be down to 5 members, with the AAC and Sun Belt both expanding to 14.

It sounds like Liberty would accept a C-USA invite (and 6 is the NCAA minimum for a conference) but it's not clear if anyone else, including independents like New Mexico State or UMass, would agree to join this zombie conference.

C-USA will probably try to expedite the elevation of some FCS schools who have been looking into it - the WAC and Atlantic Sun are both exploring that right now.

It's wild that C-USA might die as an extended result of OU and UT deciding to bail on the Big 12.

 

[cyclones500]

So, that would leave C-USA with (if I'm not forgetting anyone):
FIU
Louisiana Tech
Middle Tennessee
UTEP
Western Kentucky
--> Pending the WAC revivial, UTEP is gone, too.

 

[mj4cy]

College football will be nuts in a few years. Texas will struggle to stay relevant...throw millions of dollars away to waste it. OU will never go undefeated in the SEC and likely makes a playoff maybe once every 3-4 years at best.

Big 12 won't be as sexy at the top but will still be damn competitive...not to mention basketball will be as strong as ever.

Interesting note WVU is about the same distance from Cincinnati as ISU is to KSU. So a drivable game for those folks.

 

[drmwevr08]

They should have decided less is more. They really watered down their league with this move.

That's what folks say about the B12. What if we are too close to notice?

 

[cyclones500]

It's wild that C-USA might die as an extended result of OU and UT deciding to bail on the Big 12.

That is noteworthy. Obviously it was likely to create a domino-effect, but I didn't expect it to unfold to this extent in such a short timeframe.

 

[cyclones500]

That's what folks say about the B12. What if we are too close to notice?

Valid observation, removing league-homer goggles ... I guess it's like this: Big 12 has become a back-fill conference, but it's the Premium Back-Fill conference.