97-98 Bulls Documentary (The Last Dance)

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Lots of meritless discussions about defense "then vs now" stemming from this documentary.

Defense is just as good now: the players now are just better skilled shooters, shoot more 3's, and play at a faster pace.

Possessions per game:
1990: 98
2000: 93
2020: 100

3 point attempts per game:
1990: 6
2000: 14
2020: 34

Number of players in the league shooting better than 35% from 3 point range:
1990: 36 (27 teams)
2000: 70 (29 teams)
2020:113 (30 teams)

Even considering the above the defensive scoring is nearly identical to 30 years ago.

Points scored per 100 possessions, defense:
1990: 108 allowed
2000: 104 allowed
2020: 110 allowed
 

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Ha, this guys timeline has Jordan on the bus jamming to a lot of different/goofy songs:

 

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I agree. I just can't bring myself to believe that Michael Jordan and his millions of dollars and multiple personnel people solely on his payroll could only find ****** pizza and ate the entire pizza on the eve of a Finals game. There's just no way.
Agree no way. Plus: did Jordan go see a doctor? Was it diagnosed as "food poisoning?" I guess I missed that.
Oh and also no mention of where it was ordered from...wonder if MJ's wary of a slander/libel suit. Kinda sure the name of the pizzeria would be remembered, for something that big.
 
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I know Miller was good but what level of superstar was he at the time? Like a top 20 player, top 5?

I looked up his PER from 97-98 and it was similar to current day Devin Booker and Zach Lavine. He seemed like a bigger star than that.
 

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I looked up his PER from 97-98 and it was similar to current day Devin Booker and Zach Lavine. He seemed like a bigger star than that.
That was kind of my feeling just from watching when I was 8 or 9. Probably something sexy about the 3 ball.
 

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Agree no way. Plus: did Jordan go see a doctor? Was it diagnosed as "food poisoning?" I guess I missed that.
Oh and also no mention of where it was ordered from...wonder if MJ's wary of a slander/libel suit. Kinda sure the name of the pizzeria would be remembered, for something that big.


Man, who cares? He was obviously sick during that game.
 

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Agree no way. Plus: did Jordan go see a doctor? Was it diagnosed as "food poisoning?" I guess I missed that.
Oh and also no mention of where it was ordered from...wonder if MJ's wary of a slander/libel suit. Kinda sure the name of the pizzeria would be remembered, for something that big.

You go to a doctor when you have food poisoning?

I guess I don’t understand the motivation of lying, maybe some exaggeration. I do understand why you’d prefer the flu story leaking compared to food poisoning though.
 

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I looked up his PER from 97-98 and it was similar to current day Devin Booker and Zach Lavine. He seemed like a bigger star than that.
Reggie was on the downside of his prime at that point. They gave the impression he was some upstart but he was like 33 in that finals and was only 2 years younger than Jordan.
I suppose he got more attention because of the trash talk and coming up with some clutch games and shots, so maybe he was overrated. Dude is a hall of famer for a reason though.
 

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Went to youtube and this was among the recommendations. MJ's return to Chicago as a Wizard. Pretty sure very few in that building rooted for the Bulls that day. This was also when Fred was on the Bulls roster.

 
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Costas sign off after 98 finals. Pretty much spot on about his take on sports after this with a few exceptions (Spurs with their core of Duncan, Parker, Ginobli, Shaq and Kobe in LA, Brady and Belichick in New England to name a few.)


 
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Went to youtube and this was among the recommendations. MJ's return to Chicago as a Wizard. Pretty sure very few in that building rooted for the Bulls that day. This was also when Fred was on the Bulls roster.




So, you're saying that Hoiberg was part of Jerry Krause's master plan for rebuilding the Bulls?
 

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Went to youtube and this was among the recommendations. MJ's return to Chicago as a Wizard. Pretty sure very few in that building rooted for the Bulls that day. This was also when Fred was on the Bulls roster.


Fred torched MJ with 20 seconds left.

And my oh my, that Wizards starting 5? Woof.
 

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Reggie was on the downside of his prime at that point. They gave the impression he was some upstart but he was like 33 in that finals and was only 2 years younger than Jordan.
I suppose he got more attention because of the trash talk and coming up with some clutch games and shots, so maybe he was overrated. Dude is a hall of famer for a reason though.

He was someone that just wouldn't go away, and really that Pacers team was like that, and imo they got it from Larry Bird. I thought he did a heck of a job coaching.
 

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