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dukeebear said:
I do, he had two years of letting me down. He should be flipping me though. Ten in a row last year in the middle of the season and so far this year. Was also impressed with him in the consellation bracket at Nationals last year. But if you really didn't think he would be at least a two time all American by now, then do you not know what you are talking about? I really thought he would be a three timer. Hopefully it's a two timer, but he wouldn't have had that opportunity, without COVID.

Third grade insults aren't going to change my opinion either. Let me guess, you are going to take your ball and go home also, and your dad can beat up my dad. This is the ****** part of this board, if someone has a difference of an opinion, they are just an idiot or don't know what they are talking about. In all reality, it's just my opinion of watching him wrestle for 5 years and the expectation, right or wrong, I had of him coming out of high school. Again, hope he makes me eat my words. Hope he finishes top 3 at Nationals. I could also say I hope he finishes top 3 at the Big 12s though. 3rd is his best finish at the Big 12 tournament. He is way more talented than that. If he is locked in, I expect nothing less than a Big 12 title and a top 3 finish in Tulsa. Yes I think when he is at his best, he is better than Parkers best
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You have more posts in this forum on threads about AOC than you do about wrestling. Just be best to stay away from stuff your clearly clueless about.
 
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crablegs said:
You have more posts in this forum on threads about AOC than you do about wrestling. Just be best to stay away from stuff your clearly clueless about.
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Another great insult. Well played. Clearly you can't have an opinion on both. I don't post often because of this reason. Sad part is I respect your wrestling opinion as I know you are a fan. But me saying Coleman hasn't done what I thought he would gets your panties in a wad. Again hope he proves me wrong. Thanks for being a man on this topic and not a toddler
 
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dukeebear said:
Another great insult. Well played. Clearly you can't have an opinion on both. I don't post often because of this reason. Sad part is I respect your wrestling opinion as I know you are a fan. But me saying Coleman hasn't done what I thought he would gets your panties in a wad. Again hope he proves me wrong. Thanks for being a man on this topic and not a toddler
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Now you’re moving the target. Saying he hasn’t done what you thought he would is different than saying he’s had horrible performances in big matches. Nice attempt to backtrack though.
 
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dukeebear said:
Another great insult. Well played. Clearly you can't have an opinion on both. I don't post often because of this reason. Sad part is I respect your wrestling opinion as I know you are a fan. But me saying Coleman hasn't done what I thought he would gets your panties in a wad. Again hope he proves me wrong. Thanks for being a man on this topic and not a toddler
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As with several of our guys I think weight management played a big part in his early development. Bouncing between 174 (too light) and 197 (too heavy) clearly didn't help him out, especially sucking down to 174. I seems since he settled in as our regular at 184 things have settled down and I have supreme confidence in him now.
 
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crablegs said:
Now you’re moving the target. Saying he hasn’t done what you thought he would is different than saying he’s had horrible performances in big matches. Nice attempt to backtrack though.
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Not back tracking. What's his best finish at the Big 12s and nationals?

Also don't want to go back thru a bunch of duals. But his record his first three years speaks for itself.

And it's not different. If I thought he should be a multi time all American then, my thoughts would be he should be a favorite in 90 to 95 % of his matches. How is that different or backtracking?

I'll also assume some of those would be big matches. You wrestle for the post season. Last year was great, he hit the podium. But then again, that's what I expected.
 
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SouthJerseyCy said:
As with several of our guys I think weight management played a big part in his early development. Bouncing between 174 (too light) and 197 (too heavy) clearly didn't help him out, especially sucking down to 174. I seems since he settled in as our regular at 184 things have settled down and I have supreme confidence in him now.
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I did mention that above in a less eloquent way then you did. I 100% agree with this statement. He's been a Swiss army knife. I also unfairly lump him with Colbray in this arena because I expected more from him also. Both have incredible potential
 
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dukeebear said:
Not back tracking. What's his best finish at the Big 12s and nationals?

Also don't want to go back thru a bunch of duals. But his record his first three years speaks for itself.

And it's not different. If I thought he should be a multi time all American then, my thoughts would be he should be a favorite in 90 to 95 % of his matches. How is that different or backtracking?

I'll also assume some of those would be big matches. You wrestle for the post season. Last year was great, he hit the podium. But then again, that's what I expected.
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He made significant improvements. He wasn’t an AA caliber wrestler early in his career. You may have thought he would be, but he simply wasn’t. What is so hard to understand about that?
 
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crablegs said:
He made significant improvements. He wasn’t an AA caliber wrestler early in his career. You may have thought he would be, but he simply wasn’t. What is so hard to understand about that?
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Not arguing with that. I 100% agree with your statement
 
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JohnPrineforCy said:
No more looking at his past results, the kid is wrestling better than he ever has period. He will win Sunday and win easy. Mark it down. Let’s go Cyclones.
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Hope you are 100% and I won't. Hope he shuts me up and I hope beer cans get chucked at the mat. I was at the Penn State meet last year. Was fun to see Carver lose it's mind
 
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