5 Kickers, 5 Punters

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Has everyone here noticed that we are the only team in the NCAA with 5 kickers on our roster and 5 punters on our roster? This kind of surprised me, most teams don't carry that many at all.:confused:
 
Only 2 kickers and 1 punter are on scholarship. It's not like we are wasting scholarships on these positions, plus we have had out struggles at those spots in the past.
 
In reality...ISU has 2 kickers and 1 maybe 2 punters depending on who you ask. The others, while I applaud them for being a part of a Division 1 football team, will probably be on the practice squad.
 
and yet its still our weakest link every season

? Mahoney has been the top scorer the past two seasons despite a down season last year and Brandtner is arguably the best punter ISU has ever had. You want to talk about a weak link, maybe try looking towards the corners who were burned in every single game last season.

Weakest link? No. Easiest to single out? Yes.
 
Has everyone here noticed that we are the only team in the NCAA with 5 kickers on our roster and 5 punters on our roster? This kind of surprised me, most teams don't carry that many at all.:confused:

Did you really look at every roster in the country to compare? Talk about having some free time! :wink:

Most are walk-ons who will never get within a country mile of playing in a game. You are right, it's hard to figure out why any team would need that many walk-on kickers and punters just taking up space and using up oxygen. Because that's all they will ever do at ISU.
 
? Mahoney has been the top scorer the past two seasons despite a down season last year and Brandtner is arguably the best punter ISU has ever had. You want to talk about a weak link, maybe try looking towards the corners who were burned in every single game last season.

Weakest link? No. Easiest to single out? Yes.

"Every season" implies more than the last two.

Lack of a reliable kicking game cost us big time in close losses in 2001, 2004, and 2005. Hell, even 1972 (Nebraska).
 
we will probably have a non shollie player do the punting. let's hope he can run,pass and punt. we need some razzle dazzle plays on our punting team to win some ball games. i had a kid on rhoads 'desk that averaged 43 yards per punt and he had kicked 6 field goals from over 50 yards and two of them 59 yards out his senior year -we lost him to west texas at canyon,texas.
 
we will probably have a non shollie player do the punting. let's hope he can run,pass and punt. we need some razzle dazzle plays on our punting team to win some ball games. i had a kid on rhoads 'desk that averaged 43 yards per punt and he had kicked 6 field goals from over 50 yards and two of them 59 yards out his senior year -we lost him to west texas at canyon,texas.

VanderKemp is a scholarshipped player. He will be the punter.
 
Has everyone here noticed that we are the only team in the NCAA with 5 kickers on our roster and 5 punters on our roster? This kind of surprised me, most teams don't carry that many at all.:confused:

"Noticed"? You checked the rosters of hundreds of schools at every NCAA level? :skeptical:

Anyway, with an open punting position (and place kicking a little shaky last season), it's not unusual for a number of walkons to give the job a shot.
 
Van Der Kamp is our punter. We are not taking a kicker til next year at the earliest.
 
Aren't Guyer and Mahoney in the same class? Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think Guyer has redshirted. Is anyone else surprised by this?
 
? Mahoney has been the top scorer the past two seasons despite a down season last year and Brandtner is arguably the best punter ISU has ever had. You want to talk about a weak link, maybe try looking towards the corners who were burned in every single game last season.

Weakest link? No. Easiest to single out? Yes.

Kennard Banks maybe, but LJ not so much. And the corners getting burned has a lot more to do with the Dline not getting pressure. Mahoney still worries me though. And the original poster you quoted, was talking about more then the last two years, but good job on that one.
 
Mahoney and Guyer are in the same class and Guyer has not red shirted to my knowledge. Both have two years left including this year.
 
And the corners getting burned has a lot more to do with the Dline not getting pressure.
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I cant quite get my head around this one. The corners getting burned has more to do with the d-line not getting pressure?...The defensive line has nothing to do with how fast a receiver is or how a corner covers him. It is the corners responsibility to cover the receiver. LJ is a great hitter and a decent coverage guy. Go back and watch film and count how many long touchdowns were given up by LJ. I guarantee that when he "rededicated himself", he took some time to work on becoming a better coverage player. I would not be surprised to see his coverage improve ten fold this season.

As for giving examples of just the past two years, I was just giving something that had some sort of relevancy to this coming season and last season.
 
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Aren't Guyer and Mahoney in the same class? Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think Guyer has redshirted. Is anyone else surprised by this?

Mahoney and Guyer are in the same class and Guyer has not red shirted to my knowledge. Both have two years left including this year.

Thank the Chizzinator for that.

Guyer kicked off 3 times as a freshman in 2008. He didn't play in 2009, so they could theoretically call that a redshirt year if all parties agreed to it.
 
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I cant quite get my head around this one. The corners getting burned has more to do with the d-line not getting pressure?...The defensive line has nothing to do with how fast a receiver is or how a corner covers him. It is the corners responsibility to cover the receiver. LJ is a great hitter and a decent coverage guy. Go back and watch film and count how many long touchdowns were given up by LJ. I guarantee that when he "rededicated himself", he took some time to work on becoming a better coverage player. I would not be surprised to see his coverage improve ten fold this season.

As for giving examples of just the past two years, I was just giving something that had some sort of relevancy to this coming season and last season.

It may not be the only reason they've gotten burned, but it's extremely important. If any reasonable high major DI quarterback has all day to throw it (and knows that he will), they will pick any secondary apart.