On the other hand we could say the results have happened very quickly compared to most legit program builds.
Usually it's like 3-8, 5-7, 6-6, etc. by season before breaking through and ISU sky rocketed.
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On the other hand we could say the results have happened very quickly compared to most legit program builds.
Usually it's like 3-8, 5-7, 6-6, etc. by season before breaking through and ISU sky rocketed.
Every national title game participant since 2002 has had at least one 5 star recruit on the roster. It would be nice if ISU could break that streak next year, but if you want to consistently get there you need to have some upgrade in talent.
You don't have to go crazy with those guys but if you can find one or two every few years who have the talent and the work ethic and are team first guys they can certainly make the difference.
ISU is far from alone in never having had a 5 star. In the Big 12 Kansas, K-State, and Texas Tech all are 0-fer in 5 stars. In the big 10 Indiana, Northwestern, Purdue, and Minnesota have never had one either.
Yes, we should all be pleased with where we are, considering where we came from. CMC has done an amazing job, but to get to the level of the NCG ISU is going to need a few more difference makers. If you look at the players on ISU that have excelled early, you will see they are mostly guys that were 4 stars or high 3 stars. Purdy, Hall, I. Young, and Hutchinson were all fairly highly regarded, at least compared to other ISU recruits. Mike Rose is certainly a guy that has punched above his weight since coming to ISU, but he is more of a exception.
The amazing part of Saban’s Alabama is that so many top recruits line up to compete just for playing time. Could have gone to most schools and been playing the 1st or 2nd year, but wanted to compete and constantly get recruited over. It’s no wonder so many Alabama guys have success in the NFL, when they’ve had trial by fire in college.
That will never be the path to success at ISU. Ours is the same path KSU, OkSt, TCU and Iowa take. Good coaches that stick around, a ball control offense and solid D, with a bunch of 3 stars that take time to develop.
That will never be the path to success at ISU. Ours is the same path KSU, OkSt, TCU and Iowa take. Good coaches that stick around, a ball control offense and solid D, with a bunch of 3 stars that take time to develop.
Yeah, watching Smith last night was a lot like watching "The Cheetah" play for the Chiefs.
They aren’t there to compete. They are there because of $$$.
True, but there are 10 other programs with deep pockets and dirty tactics that can’t compete either, they’re not just outspending all of them in bag man money.
Out of curiosity, where does the 20 of 23 starters thing come from? I could understand 22 starters or even 25 starters, but the number 23 is throwing me off. I heard Murph and Andy say the 20 of 23 starters return thing yesterday too.
Agreed! Who is #23?
Place kicker? Punter? Long Snapper? Holder? The 3rd TE? The 2nd WR? Rory Walling? ... it's probably Rory Walling...
Based on the Fiesta Bowl participation chart, we only return 19 of 22 (Akers, L. White, Bailey)
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One could certainly make an argument that Milton is a starter over Akers but that's neither here nor there.
I wouldn't have a problem including the kicker, punter, and long snapper, but I don't understand only including one of them.
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One could certainly make an argument that Milton is a starter over Akers but that's neither here nor there.
I wouldn't have a problem including the kicker, punter, and long snapper, but I don't understand only including one of them.
I think Campbell will go out and get the very best players he can that also fit our culture. He won’t sacrifice the fit and the culture even in the slightest bit for better talent
The F position on offense is the 12th starting spot.
WR Z, X, M
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F- Soehner is the only one leaving on O
QB
RB
5 OL
The F position on offense is the 12th starting spot.
WR Z, X, M
TE
F- Soehner is the only one leaving on O
QB
RB
5 OL
Yup. Soehner is the "flex" starter.
Based on the Fiesta Bowl participation chart, we only return 19 of 22 (Akers, L. White, Bailey)
Football vs Oregon on 1/2/2021 - Box Score - Iowa State University Athletics
The official box score of Football vs Oregon on 1/2/2021
One could certainly make an argument that Milton is a starter over Akers but that's neither here nor there.
I wouldn't have a problem including the kicker, punter, and long snapper, but I don't understand only including one of them.
I wouldn't consider Akers a starter. At least not this past year (when he really didn't have a significant role).
I would personally go by the participation report over the depth chart considering that has Kene OR Jirehl OR Lang as the 2nd string RB but it's whateverThe F position on offense is the 12th starting spot.
WR Z, X, M
TE
F- Soehner is the only one leaving on O
QB
RB
5 OL
Campbell always seems to know quite a bit about the families of his recruits. I think The Process includes some specs about parents!
Nah. Who wants to have debates about how many national championships you have won?
How many national titles has Alabama actually won?
How many national championships has Alabama won?
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