NFL: ***2023 NFL offseason***
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If they could get multiple early round picks for Fields, it would be what’s best for them IMO. They have so many holes to fill.
Then, trade the 1st overall, get more early round picks, they could be set up very nicely.
Won’t happen, but it would be fun.
Why is trading Fields the consensus strategy? He showed good growth from 2021 when he had Matt Nagy as his coach. After the week 6 game the Bears adjusted the offense and he improved again and the offense was at least competent.
If they actually give him receivers instead of wasting picks trading for the Chase Claypools of the world, they could be a dangerous offense next year.
If they actually give him receivers instead of wasting picks trading for the Chase Claypools of the world, they could be a dangerous offense next year.
The Bears have their first hint of a competent QB since McMahon.
To even think about trading Fields would be a very Bear thing to do.
Maybe they just need a great defense and rely on the running game. It's worked very well for the franchise
As a Titans fan, they finally had their first great WR since ever and then traded him for a mid 1st because they threw all their cap space at two middling edge rushers. This kind of thing is excruciating.
I don't get their strategy with Field or Montgomery.
That line is brutally bad.
Yeah, dumb. Bears need to focus on upgrading all the pieces around him. FIrst upgrade the OL and then the WRs.
Tend to disagree with you there. Fields is a ridiculously good running qb but he lacks accuracy from a throwing standpoint. I don’t think he’s the franchise qb. Above and beyond that (and maybe more importantly) is they need help all over the field and by the time you pull in the talent to actually play (and compete) around fields, will fields even be there?
To me it makes more sense to go get multiple early round draft picks for him. Load up on talent (god knows the bears have 0 receivers, Monty is getting older, the o line might be the worst in the league, their defense allowed the most points/game this year and nearly the most running yds/game). They aren’t going to go from second worst team to playoff caliber next year without massive changes and upgrades. They need good picks to do that.
And then the defense and the stadium.
It's possible an expansion team would be an easier build
From week 7 onward he was 13th in Completion Percentage Over Expected (CPOE, based on modeled player mapping), at 0.6% over expected.
From week 7 onward, he was 17th in Completion Percentage (67.2%) while being 10th in Air yards per attempt (average receiver targeted was 8.7 yards downfield).
He had a higher completion percentage in the back portion of the season than Derek Carr, Josh Allen, Deshaun Watson, Tua Tagovailoa, Aaron Rodgers, Lamar Jackson, Ryan Tannehill, and Russell Wilson.
They changed the offense considerably and he got much more comfortable. Now he gets to keep the same coach and coordinator and hopefully improve the receivers.
Good points… devils advocate here: if you were to build a team around a qb right now (at this point in their careers), would you pick any of those? Josh Allen would be the only one I would. That’s what the bears need to do is build a new team. Not saying they can’t do it around fields but there are gaping holes everywhere.
In addition to that, when was the last time you saw a running athlete who was a qb (because that’s what fields is, he’s not a qb who will run if needed) win the superbowl let alone make it to the superbowl? Of note, I would consider mahomes a pass first, run if necessary qb (plus he’s a unicorn).
A new coach and system is definitely something to consider, I'm sure they know which way they're heading.
If Allen is the only one you would take, how many QBs would you take in the NFL over Fields then?
Mahomes, Allen, Herbert, Burrow, Lawrence, Hurts, Dak
That's about it?
Also, we JUST SAW Hurts in a Super Bowl.
Hurts is not a run first qb and he definitely wasn’t this year. He runs well but they’re not designing multiple run plays for him every game are they? And hurts completes 10% more of his passes than fields. That adds up. I’m can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched fields either airmail balls to open wrs or throw them at their feet.
I would take all of those qbs you mention sans dak. Wouldn’t you? They aren’t going to win a superbowl with fields going up against any of those qbs/teams especially with the supporting cast they have. Why not trade fields, use the high draft picks to start fresh and build the roster with quality draft picks? He’ll they traded roquan smith at the deadline. They know they’re in full rebuild mode.
1) Hurts had more rush attempts than Fields this year. His rush rate was lower than Fields, but he's a running QB and just made the Super Bowl.
2) If the Bears move on from Fields, what's the answer at QB? 5, 10, 30 more years of Jim Miller, Cade McNown, Jay Cutler, Andy Dalton, Nick Foles, Rex Grossman, Erik Kramer? If you've got a great athlete showing improvement, spend the resources on improvements around him rather than giving up. They can trade down from 1st pick and get a lot of good pieces, evaluate Fields with a sufficient team and see where 2023 goes.
