2021 College Football Playoff Rankings

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CyTwister

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I think if they would have won, Georgia would be on the outside looking in. A 1 loss Okie State had a better resume than a 1 loss Georgia, IMO.

idk about that one. Georgia absolutely pounded everyone they played except bama and a 10-3 win against Clemson. Also a loss to Bama is nothing vs 7-5 ISU.

UGA resume > OSU resume if they beat Baylor.
 

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idk about that one. Georgia absolutely pounded everyone they played except bama and a 10-3 win against Clemson. UGA resume > OSU resume if they beat Baylor

Disagree. Georgia got pounded in their conference championship game. Their best win is 9-3 Kentucky. You know who else beat Kentucky? 7-5 Tennessee.

Georgia’s 1 loss resume would not have been better than an Okie State 1 loss resume.
 

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There is no way a one loss sec team who’s only loss is to the almighty Alabama in CCG does not get in. They could of gotten beat 100-0 and it wouldn’t of mattered. They knew that before yesterday.
 

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Disagree. Georgia got pounded in their conference championship game. Their best win is 9-3 Kentucky. You know who else beat Kentucky? 7-5 Tennessee.

Georgia’s 1 loss resume would not have been better than an Okie State 1 loss resume.

Look at Okie State non-con and the number of close wins they eeked out. Georgia beat the crap out of everyone.
 

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Disagree. Georgia got pounded in their conference championship game. Their best win is 9-3 Kentucky. You know who else beat Kentucky? 7-5 Tennessee.

Georgia’s 1 loss resume would not have been better than an Okie State 1 loss resume.
Sure, I will argue that to non-Big 12 people.


But UGa>Ok St. Two one loss teams, before you what-if their wins, you look at the loss. Losing to Bama in the title game is WAY less incriminating that losing to a 7-5 Iowa St team, unfortunately. We did the conference no favors losing to Iowa at home, TT, and WVU, all games in which we should have won.

Then look at the eye test. Ok St had a lot of Iowa luck in them to reach the Big 12 title game at 11-1. They would not have been more deserving.

And even had they been, it would not happen for money reasons. I am at peace with knowing Baylor getting super lucky yesterday did not cost the Big 12 a chance at having two CFP teams.
 
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WhoISthis

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Margin of victory is not a committee protocol.
Neither is "who else did this team's best win lose to". That's third order bull-****. And the committee does not have a protocol, they have find the best 4 teams, which margin of victory is inherent to.

One loss teams, the first order of comparison is to compare losses. Losing to Bama is better than losing to 7-5 Iowa St.
 
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Neither is "who else did this team's best win lose two". That's third order bull-****. And the committee does not have a protocol, they have find the best 4 teams, which margin of victory is inherent to.

One loss teams, the first order of comparison is to compare losses. Losing to Bama is better than losing to 7-5 Iowa St.

1. There is a protocol
2. Comparative losses is not a thing
3. strength of schedule is, and Okie State has a top 5 SOS. Georgia’s is right about #30.
 
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I think Cincy having a Big 12 invite in their back pocket did play a factor in all of this as well.
 
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Not sure Oklahoma State would have gotten in even if they had won (doesn’t mean I agree with it). With Bama beating Georgia and putting Cincinnati at 4, it was very clear it would have been Cincinnati OR Oklahoma State, not both.
 

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No, but strength of schedule is, and Okie State has a top 5 SOS. Georgia’s is right about #30.
So is margin of victory, given the largest factor is "every committee member makes their own ranking based on their expert college football knowledge". UGa curb-stomping almost everyone is going to factor in as much as esoteric SOS calculations.

SOS is after the list after results/record comparisons imo. Losing to 7-5 ISU not as good as losing to Bama. Plus that gap is not big enough to offset the other factors. SOS is to eliminate the G5s, not P5 vs P5. Is that even the correct SOS comparison? There are SOS ratings that have it much closer.
 

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Margin of victory is not a committee protocol.

The committee has no protocols other than a commitment to always change criteria on a whim.

If they did have a protocol it would look something like this:
1. Teams need to have played in 13 games, 12 games isn't enough. We don't know enough about a 12 game team.
2. The exception to rule #1 is if one team has 6 games and every other team has 11. In that scenario playing 5 less games is awesome and helps us know more about the team.
3. We will change the protocol week to week if we want.

That said...this year was a no brainer top 4. Ranking/seeding them was very close and almost any order would have been fine.
 

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1. There is a protocol
2. Comparative losses is not a thing
3. strength of schedule is, and Okie State has a top 5 SOS. Georgia’s is right about #30.

LOL

There is no protocol.

Do you remember playing football or tag in a vacant lot as a kid and you make up rules as you go? That's the protocol.

*Not arguing against their teams and seedings this year, just can't believe that people think this committee is beholden to some protocol or consistent criteria.
 

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Not sure Oklahoma State would have gotten in even if they had won (doesn’t mean I agree with it). With Bama beating Georgia and putting Cincinnati at 4, it was very clear it would have been Cincinnati OR Oklahoma State, not both.

Yeah, a one loss OK State or any Big 12 team at #5 this year wouldn't have been a crime. I just don't think our conference had a top four team this year. Until they expand the format it's just the truth that 2 or 3 major conferences probably don't have a top 4 team most years.

The year our conference likely had a #1 or #2 team that was dropped to #6 should be burned in our memories though.
 

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Until the playoff committee puts in place a rule requiring all teams play at least 10 P5 games during the regular season, we cannot compare the conferences.

Any system that rewards Alabama and other SEC and ACC teams, for playing fewer P5 schools than an Iowa State type school during the regular season is flawed and should be changed.
 

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1. There is a protocol
2. Comparative losses is not a thing
3. strength of schedule is, and Okie State has a top 5 SOS. Georgia’s is right about #30.

1.) Yeah, the protocol is to look a several things, the most important of which is each member's own ranking that has no protocol (insert margin of victory and eye test here). Are you knew to following this? l
2.) They look at team's record. What do you think that means exactly?
3.) Meh, not a huge difference, and potentially not accurate

I like the fight for a Big 12 team, but Ok St only had a modest SOS advantage in regards to what they look at, and that is not enough to offset the other "protocols" lol