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BCClone

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Good with the bad for sure, not only is it stressful but you spend a lot of time researching. Ive been pretty good at it but still leave the long term investments to a financial planner.
I won’t deny that I have considered leaving a chunk of the profit in the account and dabbling a little for fun.

My wife’s family are the kings of whole life insurance wife has a ****load of 5-10k whole lifers that her parents got her and she drops a hundred here and there. I finally got her convinced to start cashing some in for term and using the cash to buy solid dividend stocks that will pay the difference of the larger term policy and what she currently has and not having to pay anything in and having some hopeful capital gains and residual value. So I have to try to keep those separate also. So there are about 2-3 stocks I have to avoid.
 

mtowncyclone13

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LOL If thats the outlook then yes I was one of them. I had a buddy make in the last 30 days over 150k on Tesla puts. Options are so awesome right now with the market. Do you not day trade?
Does he buy puts or sell puts? I don't like options because I like being able to get in and out in smaller swings.
 

chadly82

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Does he buy puts or sell puts? I don't like options because I like being able to get in and out in smaller swings.
I believe he sells puts, I also prefer the smaller swings especially if youre happy with what you see in a matter of a few hours even.
 

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This might turn out like 2008. A lot of volatility around the time of TARP/stimulus, then slowly bottoming out while the economic numbers come in before finally rebounding
 

ArgentCy

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Does he buy puts or sell puts? I don't like options because I like being able to get in and out in smaller swings.
Options are fantastic. This is what the pros use these days. You can do all sorts of complex but still simple concepts. Even just a call or put can limit your risk while providing good leverage. Options are expensive now because volatility is high. So some conservative plays ti take advantage are selling covered call or cash secured puts. Do NOT sell naked puts unless a real pro.
 

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This might turn out like 2008. A lot of volatility around the time of TARP/stimulus, then slowly bottoming out while the economic numbers come in before finally rebounding

My opinion, and it's just that an opinion, is that the bottom was reached in the panic selling on Monday. Always nervous when you have 2 days of no trading and people sitting at home and all they hear is that news. I think about 5-6MM job losses are factored in now. Not saying we won't go back down but I think we should have a bottom that we would bounce off of now if we do go back there.


I probably just jinxed the whole thing now.
 

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My opinion, and it's just that an opinion, is that the bottom was reached in the panic selling on Monday. Always nervous when you have 2 days of no trading and people sitting at home and all they hear is that news. I think about 5-6MM job losses are factored in now. Not saying we won't go back down but I think we should have a bottom that we would bounce off of now if we do go back there.


I probably just jinxed the whole thing now.
If the bottom did hit Monday I'm going to be pissed at myself for not pulling the trigger on a few stocks then I was watching.
 

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If the bottom did hit Monday I'm going to be pissed at myself for not pulling the trigger on a few stocks then I was watching.

I wanted to dump a slow performer for one that I thought had way more potential. Didn't want to throw any more money in so I set a target yesterday to sell and it almost reached it and now it's about 3 percent off from there and up about one percent today. The stock I wanted is now up double digits today. I'm kicking myself from just not pulling the couple extra grand out of savings.
 

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If the bottom did hit Monday I'm going to be pissed at myself for not pulling the trigger on a few stocks then I was watching.
Maybe it was but that seems pretty unlikely. I think the markets take a big dump Monday once the stimulus gets through the house. I took a little out yesterday and plan on scaling money back in when things start to dump again.
 

Cyched

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My opinion, and it's just that an opinion, is that the bottom was reached in the panic selling on Monday. Always nervous when you have 2 days of no trading and people sitting at home and all they hear is that news. I think about 5-6MM job losses are factored in now. Not saying we won't go back down but I think we should have a bottom that we would bounce off of now if we do go back there.


I probably just jinxed the whole thing now.
You could be right, but there’s a couple things that make me wary:


1. I don’t think we’ve seen the full effects of the recent unemployment spike and impacts to business.

2. We haven’t reached the worst part of the outbreak yet, and any subsequent consequences of more sick/dead people.


Again, it will all be obvious in hindsight
 

BCClone

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You could be right, but there’s a couple things that make me wary:


1. I don’t think we’ve seen the full effects of the recent unemployment spike and impacts to business.

2. We haven’t reached the worst part of the outbreak yet, and any subsequent consequences of more sick/dead people.


Again, it will all be obvious in hindsight

The dead will trail the outbreak numbers so I definitely agree there. I believe the curve is being flattened (outside of New York and New Jersey due to being neighbors to NYC). My family was planning to go to NY for spring break, now glad we didn't. It was not being taken seriously by that town and state, they were downplaying it hard. I believe the rest of the country has learned from them and have flattened it some. With warmer weather that should also slow this down since it prefers colder areas. NY accounts for half the outbreaks, if we can get them under control, the numbers will cool off IMO.

I think we will have a leg down, but what level does it come from? Right now, nobody sees good alternatives to put their money, so there is some in the stock market by default. The dividend announcement could be something that spooks people also. Guessing most won't have one next quarter.
 

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I think the next big news from the market will come from q1 earnings calls. We'll see how much the virus affected February and March business. I think q1 numbers will disappoint leading to companies tightening their belts and slower growth leading in to q2.
 

mramseyISU

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I think the next big news from the market will come from q1 earnings calls. We'll see how much the virus affected February and March business. I think q1 numbers will disappoint leading to companies tightening their belts and slower growth leading in to q2.
Didn't a lot of companies cancel those calls? I'm pretty sure mine did.
 

ArgentCy

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If the bottom did hit Monday I'm going to be pissed at myself for not pulling the trigger on a few stocks then I was watching.
Temporary bottom. You almost Always bounce and possibly bounce hard and then grind lower and either retest or even make the final low.