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Discussion in 'Wrestling' started by BCClone, Mar 11, 2019.
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For the most part, this is what each guy will score for his team, not counting any bonus points. Some of the consolations could be +/- 0.5, depending which path guys take.
1st - 20
2nd - 16
3rd - 12.5
4th - 11.5
5th - 10
6th - 9
7th - 6.5
8th - 5.5
9-12 - 2
13-16 - 1.5
17-24 - 0.5
25-33 - 0
One of the best things about NCAA wrestling....no TV closeups of Joe Lunardi.
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My biggest concern is that if we wrestle like we did at Big 12s it's going to be a rough weekend. We have to step it up a level or by Friday afternoon we'll be left with just one or two guys and nobody except maybe Miklus left on Saturday morning. Given where we are at in the brackets and what the matchups are there's just a tiny difference between a terrible tournament and a really good one. If guys like Parker and Gomez just get one extra TD in a key match that could be the difference between being done Friday morning and being AAs.
Gremmel now has #8 Thomas from Pitt in round one
Just got to Pittsburgh. Cyclones are rolling in to the motel
The NCAA has also posted another updated bracket PDF (with the change at HWT), if you're into that sort of thing.
Were you in Tulsa ?
Gomez needed OT to beat the #16 seed and lost 2-6 to the #12 seed
Parker lost 4-8 to the #9 seed and 0-2 to the #4 seed
Degen beat the #16 seed 11-10 and lost 5-6 to the #7 seed
Colbray beat the #18 seed 5-2 and lost 1-4 to the #6 seed
Miklus beat the #16 seed 6-0 and lost 0-10 to the #3 seed
Our best wins at Big 12s were against #16 seeds and we lost every single match we had against AA caliber opponents.
So yeah, we need to step it up from Big 12s. If we wrestle like that we don't get anybody except maybe Miklus past the blood round. This team could have 5 AAs and a top ten finish (Which is what I'm hoping to see) but it also could have no AAs and not crack the top 30. And the difference between those two finishes isn't very much. All five of those guys can beat AA caliber guys but they also can lose to them. This weekend is a real test for the team and the coaches. Friday is going to be a wild ride.
I think this is 100% correct. However, I’d caution that barring a complete meltdown at NCAAs, this season is still a roaring success.
I liked the matchup with Hilger much better.
Tried to PM you but couldn't . Again, I agree with you and looking at the post I see how you took it the other way. My apologies.
Not sure how many here subscribe to Flo but they had the scoring breakdown based on seeding. They had ISU with 20 points and placing 21-22 (something like that). So to Grapple Cys point if we don’t wrestle better than the Big 12s we have one AA and not much happening on the backside.
Excited to see how things play out. KD has squeezed a lot out of this team. Can he get a little more?!?
Today is the absolute greatest day in sports, and it's not close. Let's do the damn thing!
(Lunatic Fringe on repeat)
Yeah, I did the math in this thread when the brackets came out and that's why I'm stressing how much on the border we are of a great tournament or a disappointing one.
Gomez, Parker, and Colbray all are seeded shy of placing, with, if you go by seeds (and ranking, since the only difference between looking at seeds and ranking is Degen's match vs Oliver makes him the underdog if you go by ranking)
Gomez bowing out tommorow morning in the third round of consolations with a loss to Bridges, who he lost to 2-6 at Big 12s
Parker bowing out with a loss to Brock in the 2nd round of consolations, who he beat 6-3 head to head but is ranked seeded and ranked lower than (this is obviously a good place for us to overperform but he'll need to beat Eirman or Alber to AA)
Colbray bowing out with a loss to #6 Dean or #4 Parker in the R12
Going with the coaches ranking rather than seeding, we'll have matches today between
#12 Parker vs #13 Red in Round 1
#10 Degen vs #8 Oliver in Round 2
#23 Straw vs #25 Monday in 1st round Consolations
#11 Colbray vs #10 Reenan in Round 2
#6 Miklus vs #10 Brunner in Round 2
#26 Gremmel vs #27 Maley in Round 2 Consolations
That's a lot of matches between guys that are more or less evenly ranked. If we all of those that's a good sign for the weekend. But tomorrow is really when we'll get the chance to fade away or separate. I'm not trying to tamper expectations or anything here,we have a lot of possible upside and I am hoping we see it. I'm just trying to stress how on the border this team is and how much is riding on the wrestlers and coaches having a good weekend. This is where Dresser and co earn their paycheck.