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BillBrasky4Cy

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Be curious to know where you're seeing later beans move North. I would say the overall industry trend is the opposite and most folks have moved half to a full maturity group earlier.

Not where I’m at on the MN border. Used to be 1.5-1.9. Now 2.3-2.5 beans. 103 corn used to be the late stuff, now 108-110 is common. 103 is the early stuff.

Yep and the Southern third of IA is planting mid 3's.
 

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Yep and the Southern third of IA is planting mid 3's.
There are certainly outliers but would say my experience is that geography across the state has generally followed the industry trend. More and more requests for late group 2's and early group 3 beans coming from the southern two tiers of counties every year. 10 years ago nearly all of those folks were planting 3.5's to 4.0's.
 

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Not where I’m at on the MN border. Used to be 1.5-1.9. Now 2.3-2.5 beans. 103 corn used to be the late stuff, now 108-110 is common. 103 is the early stuff.
What I see is corn maturity is being stretched in N Iowa - similar to what BC is saying; however beans are the staying at the same maturity - just being planted earlier.

A young sharp farmer I work with made the comment "I am chasing yield - thus soybeans from April 10 - 20; corn April 20 - finish; plant remaining soybeans. If I am satisfied with lower corn yield potential...then I would plant my corn earlier"

But...each year is so different that blanket statements are foolish to make. This farming thing will humbles us all!

Also..in my area Pioneer market share is growing; Dekalb / Asgrow is losing; Wyffels is doing well. Becks is losing. Channel seems like are strong on their dealers acres - but not much else.
 

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What I see is corn maturity is being stretched in N Iowa - similar to what BC is saying; however beans are the staying at the same maturity - just being planted earlier.

A young sharp farmer I work with made the comment "I am chasing yield - thus soybeans from April 10 - 20; corn April 20 - finish; plant remaining soybeans. If I am satisfied with lower corn yield potential...then I would plant my corn earlier"

But...each year is so different that blanket statements are foolish to make. This farming thing will humbles us all!

Also..in my area Pioneer market share is growing; Dekalb / Asgrow is losing; Wyffels is doing well. Becks is losing. Channel seems like are strong on their dealers acres - but not much else.


Are people realizing that Beck's is selling licensed product at a premium with a bible quote slapped on the bag?
 

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Not really what the chart says though, the soybean data doesn't even start until nearly May, whereas the corn chart is the middle of April. If you map the corn data to the beans data it's also at the peak of the curve in late April.

The small hit on the curve for earlier planting corn could easily be ascribed to freeze risk or slow/poor seedling emergence, factors that beans can also suffer.

Indeed the actual recommendation is quite neutral on the topic: https://crops.extension.iastate.edu/post/early-soybean-planting-considerations#:~:text=If all acres can be,corn and soybean in Iowa.

There's been some data from other universities pointing to early planting advantages but from what I've seen the ISU data hasn't found the same gains so far.
My point is, there is no curve on the front side of the beans. I don’t believe there should be either. BASF had some great data but I can’t find it online. They may not have released it to the public.
 

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Nope. Been doing it for years. Basically everyone around here does. Variety was the issue.
Yeah no issues on my end for choosing to no-till but my advice for guys wanting to plant early is definitely to put your beans in thick in that scenario. The closer the seeds are to one another they work together to get through the crust. But also not surprised if you ran into some weaker germ beans. There are plenty out there with how dry they got last fall
 

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Not where I’m at on the MN border. Used to be 1.5-1.9. Now 2.3-2.5 beans. 103 corn used to be the late stuff, now 108-110 is common. 103 is the early stuff.

We plant a bit more fuller season in the maturity mix now. 106 days to 107 days max. Mostly 103 day. Soybeans a bit more mid group 2 varieties up to 2.5 maturity at most. Fungicide and insecticide extend the soybean growing season and delay harvest a bit. We like taking corn out at 16% and not needing to dry.
 

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Yeah no issues on my end for choosing to no-till but my advice for guys wanting to plant early is definitely to put your beans in thick in that scenario. The closer the seeds are to one another they work together to get through the crust. But also not surprised if you ran into some weaker germ beans. There are plenty out there with how dry they got last fall
I bet if we had 30 inch rows, they would’ve made it. Just less pushing power in 15s for sure.
 
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What I see is corn maturity is being stretched in N Iowa - similar to what BC is saying; however beans are the staying at the same maturity - just being planted earlier.

A young sharp farmer I work with made the comment "I am chasing yield - thus soybeans from April 10 - 20; corn April 20 - finish; plant remaining soybeans. If I am satisfied with lower corn yield potential...then I would plant my corn earlier"

But...each year is so different that blanket statements are foolish to make. This farming thing will humbles us all!

Also..in my area Pioneer market share is growing; Dekalb / Asgrow is losing; Wyffels is doing well. Becks is losing. Channel seems like are strong on their dealers acres - but not much else.
20 miles from Mo. border 3.2 to 3.5 considered full season sweet spot. A few late 2’s to get started in harvest and combine kinks found but they don’t yield as well. It was stated that southern Iowa plants 4.0’s. I haven’t planted or know of anyone planting later than 3.8’s in the past 45 years in this area. Trends I’ve noted lately: fungicide routinely on everything, conser-tillage on cornstalks in spring, less rye fall seeded, more feeder cattle dry lot grow yards. Good land priced at a level that the traditional farmer buyer declined and the big renter type has a relationship with a deep pocket investor who he arranges to buy the land and makes a high rent guarantee. The renter has there own heavy equipment and removes trees, puts in tile and terraces as part of the deal. Been coming a very common practice.
 

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A lot of customers I work with have purchased older used corn planters as dedicated bean planters. You really don’t need all the fancy bells and whistles for soybeans.
That’s what we have done. Bought an 18 year old planter, added a few modern aftermarket updates to it. Has made a great bean planter. Spring is so much easier with two dedicated planters.
 
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If you start planting in April, plant beans first. If you start in May, plant corn first.

Also color me shocked that ISU isn't up to date on trends that increase yield potential. Maybe they'll do like they did with fungicide and come around in 10-15 years.
 

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If you start planting in April, plant beans first. If you start in May, plant corn first.

Also color me shocked that ISU isn't up to date on trends that increase yield potential. Maybe they'll do like they did with fungicide and come around in 10-15 years.

If you have both corn and soybean fields ready to plant, plant corn first. And when you run out of corn fields that are ready, then plant the soybean fields that are ready. Optimal planting date is April 25 for both corn and soybeans. Corn yields will really fall off after May 10. Soybeans don’t really fall off until after May 25. And you better maximize seed treatments and plant a higher rate if planting soybeans in April. Earlier you plant the more you should treat.
 

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My point is, there is no curve on the front side of the beans. I don’t believe there should be either. BASF had some great data but I can’t find it online. They may not have released it to the public.

So if soybeans are planted in March there is no curve? The reason there is no curve is because there is no data for soybeans planted before April 25. They started April 25.
 

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So if soybeans are planted in March there is no curve? The reason there is no curve is because there is no data for soybeans planted before April 25. They started April 25.
Not trying to be a **** but I’m guessing you’re 50-60 years old and I’m not going to change your mind. We’ve probably got different goals. Believe what you want to believe man.
 

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Not trying to be a **** but I’m guessing you’re 50-60 years old and I’m not going to change your mind. We’ve probably got different goals. Believe what you want to believe man.

Just pointing out the planting dates on the two charts. And your erroneous conclusions. Just pointing out facts. Corn has a shorter planting window. Also the inputs you probably already have down. That is why you push that crop. Plus the longer season allows better drydown. But you get your soybeans in the ground first and ignore doing your corn. Get rain for several weeks. On May 31 would you rather be planting soybeans or corn?
 

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