COVID-19 Unemployed/Employed Roll Call Poll

Are you still employed during COVID?

  • Yes

    Votes: 57 21.5%
  • No

    Votes: 10 3.8%
  • Yes but Moved to Part Time

    Votes: 2 0.8%
  • I never stopped working during COVID

    Votes: 196 74.0%

  • Total voters
    265

CyArob

Why are you the way that you are?
Apr 22, 2011
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Been working from home for 4 months. Supposed to go back in next week, but they're being fairly flexible about that
 

Sigmapolis

Minister of Economy
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Aug 10, 2011
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There's been a lot on "de-officing" in the news and I think it will be a thing for sure. I'd guess around half of office jobs can be done equally well at home.

There are enormous benefits to skipping commutes in major cities, you would have a lot of people getting a couple hours of their life back, every day. That's huge. Reduced impact on global warming too. (Tinfoil hat - covid invented to scare people and reduce CO2 emmissions to save planet!)

I see this as almost all benefit from an urban economics standpoint.

There is a continuum of workers from those who need to be there all the time (e.g., shift workers in emergency rooms, like Dr. Sigma) to those who essentially never need to be there (such as software salesman yours truly). There are plenty of people in the middle where coming into the office for meetings or to touch base a time or two a week or a few times per month would be helpful, but daily would be overkill.

For the former types, this does nothing but help them because the latter types are likely to move further and further out to acquire cheaper and more spacious real estate. Making a 2-3 hour commute daily is not viable, but doing that a few times per month probably would be. The pattern I am seeing around here is not that people are going to completely disconnect from their home base, but rather move out to stay within "striking distance" for those infrequent trips but stay in the regional orbit of a major city.

Here is a 90-minute range for Washington, DC --

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Extend that to 120 or 180 minutes, and you pick up most of the northern half of Virginia, most of Maryland, southern Pennsylvania, and eastern West Virginia. There is a lot of space out there for people to setup bespoke "work from home" communities.

The same thing for Des Moines --

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A three-hour window from Des Moines covers most of the state. There are plenty of small towns in rural Iowa that could see revitalization as "work from home" communities far beyond the traditional range of "bedroom" towns in Polk County.

These people distancing themselves would reduce the squeeze on real estate prices for the stock close into cities and reduce the burden on transportation infrastructure, which makes living close and moving around much cheaper and easier for the people who really do need (or really want) to be there. You are also right the reducing in VMT has environmental and air quality benefits (and less wear on the infrastructure). I see nothing but benefits there to decompress many of the stresses that come with density.

The downside is that you miss out on social interaction. People joke about jerk co-workers, but it is a benefit (at least net-net). You will also lose some jobs maintaining/cleaning buildings. And there will be a major impact on the construction industry, office interiors companies, and all the folks that work in those industries. That will be a bigger economic impact than lost property values.

We just bought a new building for our business, but it is 85% warehouse/mfr space, so I feel ok about that.

You are completely right this is going to be a sea change (and not much for the better) for the sectors you mentioned. That might balance out (somewhat) by increased demand for modern and suburban-style homes in exurban locations (and with an extra bedroom or two for the parents' home offices, which are pretty nice to have).

We might be building fewer suburban office complexes in Waukee, but we might be building some newer, nicer, and larger homes in (to pick a random place) somewhere like Creston for professionals from Des Moines who can work from home.
 
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ISUATC

Active Member
Feb 1, 2007
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I'm into my fourth month of furlough and more than ready to get back to work.
 

Skyh13

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Mar 17, 2006
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Have been working my office job remotely since March, will not return until 2021 at the earliest. No impact to the job otherwise. It's nice to have the 2 hours I spent commuting back in my day. Otherwise, I'm very grateful to still have this work and be relatively unaffected throughout all this.

Also finished my masters degree in Music Technology remotely, which I was planning on having to do anyways, but under normal circumstance. I lucked out and traveled to New York to do the lab testing I needed in late February and got out before everything shut down. In the end I really needed another trip to do a better thesis, but at least I got something.

The past couple of years I've been sound designing for local theatre, work that I believe is unlikely to return for at least another year. In the meantime I've been doing some "virtual choir" work for my church and a friend at a college in South Carolina. Hoping to do more of that for a local high school whose choirs I regularly record. Am trying to figure out what's next in terms of my audio/arts career (see expensive masters degree above), but this is kind of a tough time for that, and when the entirety of the industry is built on who you know, it's hard to know what to do.

But again, very thankful my day job is stable and intact.
 

BCoffClone125

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May 19, 2010
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My wife and I both accepted new job offers out of state right before COVID hit the U.S. and luckily they were not taken away. I went about 3 weeks in-between jobs where I wasn't working, but otherwise I feel very fortunate to be employed. In my new role I am working from home about 50-60% of the week and coming on-site when I need to for meetings or in-person items. I work in manufacturing, so there's definitely a certain portion of the job where I need to be there in person to see what is going on.

I will say I love the flexibility of working remotely, but it's been a little tough starting a new job during this whole thing from a social standpoint. It's been pretty common when I go on-site that I'm the only member of my team there and I still have yet to meet many of my co-workers in person even though I've had several meetings/calls with them. My company also has plenty of social activities outside of work, an on-site gym, etc. but basically all of that is suspended while COVID is happening. First world problems though, I'm just very happy to have a job right now.
 

SoapyCy

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Oct 10, 2012
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i've been part time at home since start of april and they want me to come back in (the company culture is very old-school) but we've have 4 cases last week alone so i think i'll chill at home for another few weeks. i know people probably talk about me critically but my safety is more important - PLUS being with my kids full time is the absolute best time of my life. i don't want to go back to the status quo. i want to be with my kids.
 

Skyh13

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Mar 17, 2006
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There are enormous benefits to skipping commutes in major cities, you would have a lot of people getting a couple hours of their life back, every day.

Oh hey, that's me. 1 hour there and 1 hour back, assuming that all the public transportation is running smoothly (maybe half the time). I walk, take a train, take a subway, and then walk again.

Much better than when I was taking a bus the whole way (back when I wasn't getting job benefits with a subsidized train pass). Walk, bus, Walk, 1.5 hours there, 1.5 hours back. For a less than 10 mile trip. Awful.
 
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CTTB78

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Apr 7, 2006
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Work in manufacturing. There is no 'work from home'. 500 people working in close proximity has not been a big part of the discussion, at least on this board. The company and employees take some mitigation measures (masks) but life goes on.
 
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mj4cy

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Mar 28, 2006
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Iowa
For those that never stopped working, we’re you able to work from home?

I was blessed in that my company was already 100% online from home so the only transition was kids being loud and home 24/7.
 

mj4cy

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Mar 28, 2006
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Oh hey, that's me. 1 hour there and 1 hour back, assuming that all the public transportation is running smoothly (maybe half the time). I walk, take a train, take a subway, and then walk again.

Much better than when I was taking a bus the whole way (back when I wasn't getting job benefits with a subsidized train pass). Walk, bus, Walk, 1.5 hours there, 1.5 hours back. For a less than 10 mile trip. Awful.

Had a friend in NYC who's commute consisted of 20 minute subway ride, 10 minute walk, then 15 minutes waiting for the elevator to the 44th floor. Don't think he hated it but still very bizarre. I couldn't image what you were doing!
 

Remo Gaggi

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Aug 28, 2018
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I've been working from home since middle of March. I've had one vacation day off this year, and probably won't get another until October. I wind up working around 50 hours a week. So yeah, still working, and then some.
 

throwittoblythe

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Aug 7, 2006
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Minneapolis, MN
Never stopped working. I work in the bridge/highway construction world doing business development. I worked from home from March until early June. Started going back to the office early June. Our office is very small (<15 people max) and I have an office with a door, so I can stay away from people pretty easily.
 
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Doc

This is it Morty
Aug 6, 2006
37,437
21,963
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Denver
I'm going back to the office on 7/20/20. Working in an office all day wasn't ideal before, but it's going to be worse with COVID rules and increased risk of getting ill. Considering how often they emphasize safety and risk management, it just seems silly to bring thousands back to a enclosed spaces for 9 hours a day. We had a 20-year guy ask to stay home and they pretty much asked him to get a doctor's note like he was a child.
 

ArgentCy

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Jan 13, 2010
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Never stopped working or going to the office. I missed 1 or 2 days with a headache.
 

CyCrazy

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Dec 17, 2008
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Ames
Been working as usual except when I got the flu 2 weeks ago and got tested. That was a minimum 10 days away. Tested neg so I started back up on Monday.
 

jbindm

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Dec 2, 2010
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Des Moines
Never stopped working. I've been working remote from home since mid March. At the moment our company is planning on bringing 30% of our office staff back in early August. I am not part of that 30%. And we haven't been told much else yet. Supposedly the plan is to steadily bring back more employees maybe a month or two at a time, but we've also been told that there is a corporate policy regarding a permanent work from home option forthcoming. I'm home at least through the end of August and my supervisor told me it's nothing I have to worry much about until later this fall at the earliest.

I'd be happy never going back in. Everything still gets done. Working from home is ******* awesome.
 

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