Outside of essential businesses, it was a lock down, shelter in place exercise. Why wouldn’t we go back to that, was that not what led to flattening the initial curve?
As to the vulnerable question w/o vaccine. Shelter in place would be my answer.
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Outside of essential businesses, it was a lock down, shelter in place exercise. Why wouldn’t we go back to that, was that not what led to flattening the initial curve?
As to the vulnerable question w/o vaccine. Shelter in place would be my answer.
Things were going pretty well actually with slow reopenings and people being diligent.
Then we decided to pack it in at bars etc. and here we are. Our deaths reported ticked back up to about 1,000 yesterday after about a month of trending well below that...we'll see what our recent choices leads to.
I don't understand why the presidents of universities and ADs weren't pressuring their states to be more strict in the shut down phase and advocate for slower reopening etc so that fall sports were more likely. It seemed like everyone just wanted to pretend like all we have to do is go back to normal and everything will be fine and we can pack stadiums and have normal seasons etc.
Maybe if more pressure had been put on Kim from in state she wouldn't have listened to them instead of the President. I don't think these politicians realize how much blame will be put on them if sports get cancelled because of their failed policies. Don't mess with people's football. Especially after we didn't get March Madness.
Maybe if more pressure had been put on Kim from in state she wouldn't have listened to them instead of the President. I don't think these politicians realize how much blame will be put on them if sports get cancelled because of their failed policies. Don't mess with people's football. Especially after we didn't get March Madness.
Considering 85% of businesses in Iowa are considered to be essential that is NOT a lockdown.
It's difficult to put blame on people that deflect any responsibility for things to begin with.
There's only so much leadership can actually, really do without buy in, but when messages are purposefully mixed and extreme to create conflict, it certainly doesn't help.
I have believed and continue to believe that fall sports are a pipe dream, we just don’t have a disciplined enough society to do the hard work required to get to a place where it could be supported. I do think it’s important to plan for it in the event it can be done safely, but here we are in the middle of summer and things are only surging in the wrong direction (and that’s with people outside in the heat and supposedly less contagious). Even if sports started up, I could see them shutting down a week or two in.
Not to be a downer or pessimist (I’m actually a realist)... If you think things are bad now, just wait 2 weeks for the results of the 4th of July spread to start showing up. With the nearly mandatory push to open schools in-person, I would anticipate another big burst when colleges open back up. That will start to hit right before football season would kick off. Then you hit the flu season which will only compound the deaths as hospitals struggle. Because infection is 1-2 weeks before positive testing, and positive testing is typically 2-3 weeks before deaths, I would anticipate the death stats to keep rising gradually.
The frustrating aspect is it doesn’t have to be this hard. Those that will end up ******** the most about losing sports this fall are the same that are refusing to do the work to make it possible. I still only see 30-50% of people wearing masks in West Des Moines and Waukee.
When 50% of the population wants to burry their head in the sand and can’t be imposed upon to wear a mask, there’s little reason to believe sports can happen.
Not to be a downer or pessimist (I’m actually a realist)... If you think things are bad now, just wait 2 weeks for the results of the 4th of July spread to start showing up. With the nearly mandatory push to open schools in-person, I would anticipate another big burst when colleges open back up. That will start to hit right before football season would kick off. Then you hit the flu season which will only compound the deaths as hospitals struggle. Because infection is 1-2 weeks before positive testing, and positive testing is typically 2-3 weeks before deaths, I would anticipate the death stats to keep rising gradually.
The frustrating aspect is it doesn’t have to be this hard. Those that will end up ******** the most about losing sports this fall are the same that are refusing to do the work to make it possible. I still only see 30-50% of people wearing masks in West Des Moines and Waukee.
When 50% of the population wants to burry their head in the sand and can’t be imposed upon to wear a mask, there’s little reason to believe sports can happen.
Because havens for disease spread were shutdown (bars, restaurants, casinos, etc. were people congregate and physically interact with each other). But the fact is 85% of Iowa's businesses were deemed essential and were not shut down (some voluntarily shutdwon and had employees work from home but they were not required to do that) so I don't know how anyone can say Iowa was on lockdown when only 15% of businesses were forced to shut down.
I know it is just semantics, but calling it a lockdown bugs the hell out of me.
Minnesota had a "lockdown" and I believe 75% of their businesses remained open. Its been a couple months but that was on a Twins Cities news site.
I think the normal flus will be much less this coming season. They always come from the opposite hemispwhere during the winter seasons and with southern hemi doing the efforts to mitigate COVID I really think the normal influenzas will be greatly reduced in the upcoming season. They just don't transmit as easily as COVID and with everyone actually washing their hands (like we should have been all along) and distancing, etc that type of flu just won't get around as much, especially if Thanksgiving and Christmas basically have to be events where you just stay home.
I get where you come from, but if you have grade schoolers, you know anything that is in school for illness comes home. You can have those kids wear masks, but it will still get shared and come home. It is what it is. We are certain we will get it in September or October at the latest in our house and we will just have to deal with it. We will stay in the two weeks or whatever it is once one of us gets it.
High school sports and college sports will be different. The testing capability for high school Is minuscule compared to what colleges are currently.
That's the question. They should be allowed an out. There are a lot of younger teachers. I know the teachers for our kids wanted to be back before this last year ended. It's a choice and the school districts need to have multiple plans ready.
Well a lot of colleges already have and they quarantine. They haven't shut everything down because one athlete tested positive.
