It may not be at the exact level Iowa is at, but there are definitely programs where it has reared its ugly head. We've seen it pop up in several other places recently.
Kirk Ferentz getting sued for being racist
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Ah, so the narrative has gone from "you can't believe those players" to "everyone's doing it". I'm predicting tomorrow's excuse will be "but Kirk has black friends".
I don't think that's what he was trying to say. He was responding to twins who said only one "racist" coach was left, that being Kirk. TH was just saying it's most likely everywhere, but hopefully it's not. He's being genuine
To be fair I blocked Twins a while ago so I missed that part of the conversation.
I guess that's what I meant. Iowa is on an island in this one IMO
I'm making excuses for nothing. Not sure how you took that from what I said. I'm sure there has been, is and will be other places where this exists. Hopefully that continues to be fewer and fewer instances.
I have no reason to believe he is not. There's also no way to confirm what he is saying is completely true. It's one of those things where the University will end up paying some sort of settlement to avoid a civil suit. People are not dumb either; they know how these types of situations work and they know the University doesn't want to go to court over something like this. People do take advantage of that because they know they will be compensated. Again, not saying these claims are not true.
Right now, yes they are. I'm definitely not saying that there isn't another program or programs that have it as worse or even worse, but we've seen a lot of players out there speak up during this time period and none have come close to the severity that is the Iowa situation.
So do you think Kirk should be fired for what he did to him?
What about the current S&C coach who heard Doyle use the N word and didn't do anything about it
My point is based on what Kirk was willing to do for Everson and Satterfield suggests otherwise. Not sure any white players can claim Kirk did as much for them as he did for Everson and Satterfield. Really helped those kids out in a tight spot.
And that's where the University is going to have to make a decision after all of this that's for the betterment of the University itself as well as the football program, and not the betterment of Kirk Ferentz, his son, and his staff. They're going to have to weigh the options and look at everything on the table from a financial standpoint as well as a PR standpoint.
Are you guys talking about former players suing the school? I'm not sure what grounds they'd have to do that...
I honestly don't know this guy personally and don't know what his true motives are, but if you look at his social media pages, he is extremely vocal on these issues. Not just the ones where he is involved either. Look at it like a lawyer who is good at their job, but actually does care about his / her clients and the cause they're fighting for. They may get paid a lot of $, but it doesn't mean they're in for it solely because of that.
I know you're right. I just feel like change for the better is the best reparation not $$$$. If it becomes about the money, hell, my old high school is on the hook for the psychological damage done to me 40 years ago.
Oh yes they can lol. Civil law suits on the grounds of emotional / physical damage they endured during their time at Iowa. It's quite common.
The allegation from today stated the player was hospitalized from a workout and he specifically told the coaching staff he wasn't feeling good. He also said he ended up getting PTSD from his time there. He could certainly sue for both emotional and physical damages.
Isn't that what the players are trying to do? They're asking for change/staff changes and not for money
You can sue for literally anything. It doesn't mean you're going to win the case or even settle. It's all about how much time and $ you are willing to give up to try and prove guilt on the other side.
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