Tough day for EIU hoops hopes

[Statefan10]

Iowa had a nice year last year so I understand why Hawk fans wouldn't want to take an ISU player. Back when we had Monte Naz Matt and Georges, there were Hawkeye fans that said they'd rather have Gessell and Uthoff over Monte and Georges, so why would any Hawk fan want an Iowa State player right now? It makes sense.

 

[JP4CY]

I'm teaching a couple sessions at this clinic as well: "Scoring with a super model" followed by "Making your first billion dollars"

Frank Garza has outed himself

 

[CyTwins]

Iowa had a nice year last year so I understand why Hawk fans wouldn't want to take an ISU player. Back when we had Monte Naz Matt and Georges, there were Hawkeye fans that said they'd rather have Gessell and Uthoff over Monte and Georges, so why would any Hawk fan want an Iowa State player right now? It makes sense.

I've never seen a fanbase of a team with a NET ranking of #34 be so cocky. Lol it's so weird

 

[Statefan10]

I've never seen a fanbase of a team with a NET ranking of #34 be so cocky. Lol it's so weird

I think half of the infatuation with Iowa Basketball has to do with the fact that they had a tremendous player on their team last year, and the fact that Iowa State was awful. Last year's Iowa team probably would've ended up with around the same win total as 2 year's ago, but the fact they had a legit POY candidate and we were pathetic simply adds fuel to the fire.

 

[CyTwins]

I think half of the infatuation with Iowa Basketball has to do with the fact that they had a tremendous player on their team last year, and the fact that Iowa State was awful. Last year's Iowa team probably would've ended up with around the same win total as 2 year's ago, but the fact they had a legit POY candidate and we were pathetic simply adds fuel to the fire.

I mean they were a 7 or 8 seed last year and they act like they were one of the best teams in the country lol

 

[Cytown12]

Ask CyTwins if it gets old posting the same thing thousands of times? Once he has his teeth into a myth it goes for years.

Nice job deflecting the question from you to another person

 

[Rural]

Which one is Jeff?

 

[heitclone]

I think half of the infatuation with Iowa Basketball has to do with the fact that they had a tremendous player on their team last year, and the fact that Iowa State was awful. Last year's Iowa team probably would've ended up with around the same win total as 2 year's ago, but the fact they had a legit POY candidate and we were pathetic simply adds fuel to the fire.

The biggest thing is...they won at Hilton. Sounds crazy but its easily the biggest thing to happen to Hawk bball fans in decades. I'm honestly shocked there aren't t shirts about it. Think about how much the hawk troll presence changed around here after that night. Even the decent ones did a 180.

 

[Rural]

The biggest thing is...they won at Hilton. Sounds crazy but its easily the biggest thing to happen to Hawk bball fans in decades. I'm honestly shocked there aren't t shirts about it. Think about how much the hawk troll presence changed around here after that night. Even the decent ones did a 180.

 

[Statefan10]

The biggest thing is...they won at Hilton. Sounds crazy but its easily the biggest thing to happen to Hawk bball fans in decades. I'm honestly shocked there aren't t shirts about it. Think about how much the hawk troll presence changed around here after that night. Even the decent ones did a 180.

Oh for sure. I mean it definitely was a huge monkey off the back type of thing. Part of being a sports fan though is the ability to give it and take it. I talk my good amount of crap about Iowa sports and I'm a good enough sport to take it. So that night I just had to sit back and say well sh**.

If Iowa would have made t-shirts though, that would've taken a little bit of air out of the win. You won a regular season game at your rival's arena. You didn't win anything major in the grand scheme of things. They didn't make shirts though so no harm there.

 

[Brodie0]

I'll take arbitrary and useless statistics for 100, Alex

I don’t think you know how statistics work. Connor played more minutes than any of those guys, so obviously he is going to have a higher win share number. By putting them all on a per-40 minute basis, you are better able to compare. Connor is more of a winning basketball player than Harris, JCL, or Bolton.

 

[Statefan10]

I don’t think you know how statistics work. Connor played more minutes than any of those guys, so obviously he is going to have a higher win share number. By putting them all on a per-40 minute basis, you are better able to compare. Connor is more of a winning basketball player than Harris, JCL, or Bolton.

What does that have to do with anything? Lol Connor has been on better basketball teams than those three.. That doesn't mean he's a better player than any of them (which he isn't).

 

[Brodie0]

What does that have to do with anything? Lol Connor has been on better basketball teams than those three.. That doesn't mean he's a better player than any of them (which he isn't).

He’s certainly not a more talented basketball player, but he’s a great role player/glue guy. Every good team needs a guy like that. Connor is more valuable to Iowa than Bolton, JCL, or Harris would be.

 

[Statefan10]

He’s certainly not a more talented basketball player, but he’s a great role player/glue guy. Every good team needs a guy like that. Connor is more valuable to Iowa than Bolton, JCL, or Harris would be.

I'm not going to disagree with Bolton and Harris, but I do think JCL would be a nice addition to Iowa. Bolton and Harris would be nice to have but you have guys at those positions already and you like them. Even though Bolton and Harris are talented they aren't talented enough in your eyes to replace the current guys on the roster.

Connor does a good job playing his role and that was primarily get the ball to Garza and open shooters, and there isn't anything wrong with that. With all of that being said, Connor is a huge d-bag.

 

[CyTwins]

He’s certainly not a more talented basketball player, but he’s a great role player/glue guy. Every good team needs a guy like that. Connor is more valuable to Iowa than Bolton, JCL, or Harris would be.

No good team needs a Connor McCaffrey. Lol stop it

 

[Brodie0]

I'm not going to disagree with Bolton and Harris, but I do think JCL would be a nice addition to Iowa. Bolton and Harris would be nice to have but you have guys at those positions already and you like them. Even though Bolton and Harris are talented they aren't talented enough in your eyes to replace the current guys on the roster.

Connor does a good job playing his role and that was primarily get the ball to Garza and open shooters, and there isn't anything wrong with that. With all of that being said, Connor is a huge d-bag.

Connor is definitely the kind of player that you appreciate when he is on your team and hate when he is on the other team.

 

[CyTwins]

Connor is definitely the kind of player that you appreciate when he is on your team and hate when he is on the other team.

Nobody hates him because he isn't good

 

[Gitwitit]

The biggest thing is...they won at Hilton. Sounds crazy but its easily the biggest thing to happen to Hawk bball fans in decades. I'm honestly shocked there aren't t shirts about it. Think about how much the hawk troll presence changed around here after that night. Even the decent ones did a 180.

T-shirts were in the works and then Iowa State lost at home to Florida A&M.

 

[Statefan10]

Connor is definitely the kind of player that you appreciate when he is on your team and hate when he is on the other team.

Absolutely. Brad Davidson, Grayson Allen, Greg Paulas, Christian Laettner (holy sh** that's a lot of Duke guys) lol. I could go on and on. I think what gets under a lot of fan's skins (particularly Iowa State fans), is that Connor doesn't really back up his talk with his play.

You take a look at a list of the best trash talkers and bad boys in the history of college basketball and even the NBA, and the ones that are respected are the ones that could actually back it up. Charles Barkley, Reggie Miller, Gary Payton, Kevin Garnett, those types of guys. Then you have Lance Stephenson and Patrick Beverley who guys laugh at. Connor kind of plays a poser. He's a fake bad guy.

 

[Statefan10]

T-shirts were in the works and then Iowa State lost at home to Florida A&M.

Didn't you guys make t-shirts after beating a 3-9 Iowa State team in 2016?