Jamie Pollard gives further details on plans for Jack Trice Stadium in 2020

[MrPeske]

Link:

https://cyclonefanatic.com/2020/05/...ails-on-plans-for-jack-trice-stadium-in-2020/

We were discussing yesterday while having a few drinks.... JP needs to allow coolers in the stands so we wont have to stand in line for food/drink. Just charge a cooler covercharge. Busch lattes & whatever else you want to drink are good in the hood.

 

[Psyclone]

I've heard nothing that would indicate that fans will be spread out and assigned different seats. Pollard certainly was specific when he talked about not losing your seats even if you wait out for a year. Thus, I will assume that the plan is for 30,000 to be able to sit in their chosen seats.

I don't think that has been decided yet.

 

[Aclone]

Oh, well. Funding wins.

FIFY. I think this is better representative of the actuality.

Pollard has all of those non revenue “Olympic” sports he needs to pay for.

Just a thought. Why bother reducing the size of the student section, when you won’t be able to enforce distancing anyway? Rhetorical question.

 

[Macloney]

FIFY. I think this is better representative of the actuality.

Pollard has all of those non revenue “Olympic” sports he needs to pay for.

Just a thought. Why bother reducing the size of the student section, when you won’t be able to enforce distancing anyway? Rhetorical question.

It's not the "Olympic" sports that are a drain, it's the administration and coaching salaries. They spend 3 million less on total scholarships than on department support staff.

Entire ISU AD budgetnumbers from 2018:

https://localtvwqad.files.wordpress.com/2019/09/fy18-revenue-expense.pdf


I thought it was interesting that going to a bowl actually caused a loss. I always assumed a bowl appearance was financially positive.

 

[CloneJD]

IMHE has the number of new infections in Iowa being very low by the start of the August. AstraZeneca is worried about being able to test vaccines because of very low virus intensity. I think JTS will be near full capacity in Sept as will much of the NFL. November might be a different story.

 

[CyBobby]

Very few of us can relate to someone like Pollard who is overseeing the possible demise of the athletic program he has built. I have my personal preference for what would be best for my family. However, I think he is acting brilliantly. He is getting ahead of the media in order to control the narrative. He is being forthright and earning the respect of fans. He is also leveraging the current circumstances to sell more season tickets. Pollard is one shrewd dude.

I AGREE with your assessment One Hundred Percent....Jamie Pollard knows what he is doing and is a shrewd dude.

 

[Raiders70]

I AGREE with your assessment One Hundred Percent....Jamie Pollard knows what he is doing and is a shrewd dude.

I go to about 75% of the games but never have bought season tickets. I would be first in line to get season tickets if given the opportunity now.

 

[Macloney]

We're seeing around 50% fewer deaths nationally than we were in April. That's more than a slight trend down.

It's not like we're putting 30,000 people in stands tomorrow. We have 3 months to see what the trends do. It's a lot easier to cancel those tickets and empty stands at the last minute than it is to fill those stands. Plan for the best and if things aren't better, then change that plan.

How are you getting the 50% figure? 1500 people died yesterday, which was more than the day before. That isn't 14 days of declining cases, there haven't been 14 days of declining cases. Sure, the overall trend might be going down, but it isn't a 50% reduction.

I agree with you that a lot can happen in 3 months, but let's not act like any of the decisions about reopening have been based on any data or anything related to the health and safety of Americans.

If you want to go do things, that's cool. Just don't say that your decision is based on anything other than your desire to do that thing. None of these decisions to reopen have been science based.

 

[Clonehomer]

How are you getting the 50% figure? 1500 people died yesterday, which was more than the day before. That isn't 14 days of declining cases, there haven't been 14 days of declining cases. Sure, the overall trend might be going down, but it isn't a 50% reduction.

I agree with you that a lot can happen in 3 months, but let's not act like any of the decisions about reopening have been based on any data or anything related to the health and safety of Americans.

If you want to go do things, that's cool. Just don't say that your decision is based on anything other than your desire to do that thing. None of these decisions to reopen have been science based.

When the data varies as much as this does day to day, you need to look at trend lines. Taking a single day snapshot doesn't mean much. Valley's on the weekends and peaks during the week seems like a symptom of reporting processes. To that extent though, today's peak point is lower than the valley's that we were seeing in April.

 

[Macloney]

When the data varies as much as this does day to day, you need to look at trend lines. Taking a single day snapshot doesn't mean much. Valley's on the weekends and peaks during the week seems like a symptom of reporting processes. To that extent though, today's peak point is lower than the valley's that we were seeing in April.

I understand how a graph works, but thanks for the info about trend lines.

What I am saying is that all of the "phases" of reopening were supposed to happen after 14 consecutive days of declining cases. I can't find any data that shows that has happened. So basically someone decided that it was just time to reopen.

That was based on the fallacy that people would die from suicide, alcoholism and other mysterious financial related causes.

 

[8bitnes]

Why state by state and not county by county? Just as NY skews the national numbers, the two meat packing outbreaks skew the numbers in Iowa. Story county looks to be on the right track with 59 of the 80 cases recovered.

Because everyone who attends a college football game is coming from Story County ...

We were discussing yesterday while having a few drinks.... JP needs to allow coolers in the stands so we wont have to stand in line for food/drink. Just charge a cooler covercharge. Busch lattes & whatever else you want to drink are good in the hood.

I've never understand the need for concess

I understand how a graph works, but thanks for the info about trend lines.

What I am saying is that all of the "phases" of reopening were supposed to happen after 14 consecutive days of declining cases. I can't find any data that shows that has happened. So basically someone decided that it was just time to reopen.

That was based on the fallacy that people would die from suicide, alcoholism and other mysterious financial related causes.

I suggest you look at the rolling 14-day average of new cases. Has that dropped 14 days in a row? If so, they've met phase 1 of reopening. If not, the fear of the economy has driven the decision. In either case, some lives are being saved and some are being lost

 

[madguy30]

I understand how a graph works, but thanks for the info about trend lines.

What I am saying is that all of the "phases" of reopening were supposed to happen after 14 consecutive days of declining cases. I can't find any data that shows that has happened. So basically someone decided that it was just time to reopen.

That was based on the fallacy that people would die from suicide, alcoholism and other mysterious financial related causes.

The wording on the 14 day thing has been confusing imo but from what I've seen it's based on numbers being lower after 14 days, not consecutive. Consecutive is tricky because cases don't seem to equally reported.

WI has gone by % of positive cases, which technically it met, but then it goes up every few days so there's not really an indication that it's fading out or anything.

Either way states/counties haven't followed through with it...it was just a sound bite.

 

[Macloney]

The wording on the 14 day thing has been confusing imo but from what I've seen it's based on numbers being lower after 14 days, not consecutive. Consecutive is tricky because cases don't seem to equally reported.

WI has gone by % of positive cases, which technically it met, but then it goes up every few days so there's not really an indication that it's fading out or anything.

Either way states/counties haven't followed through with it...it was just a sound bite.

https://www.vox.com/2020/5/28/21270...pen-economy-social-distancing-states-map-data

Almost everyone is opening too soon.

Depending on how you interpret the numbers then maybe they have gone down? That doesn't sound like very sound science.

No widespread testing.

No contact tracing program.

No vaccine.

These are things that the same group that wants to reopen said we needed before we could reopen.

Literally nothing has changed.

 

[CascadeClone]

I do think they should heavily promote wearing masks. It's just that wearing masks creates a visceral reaction in some people. There are people who would rather die than wear a mask - literally people who have killed or pulled guns on people to avoid doing it. I imagine at least some of our fans at Jack Trice will be people who feel that way. If they put on a mask to walk through the gate and take it off once they're in their seats, are you going to send an usher in to make them put it back on? If the people sitting near them ask them to put it on that will probably just start a fight.

It shouldn't be, but it's a divisive issue. I hope they do all the things you're saying they should do to promote masks. But, even then I think you'll still have 10-20% of people refusing to wear them.

Yes, people have pulled out guns to not put on masks. How many? A dozen? Two dozen? Out of 300 million over a month or so? Way beyond the exception to the rule.

As to people taking mask off in the stadium... absolutely have an usher tell them to put it on or else leave. If they don't comply, security and/or law enforcement escorts them out. No different than being drunk, abusive, or generally creating a ruckus. It's critical to clearly set the policy up front -- if you don't like it, then don't come to the game. JP will have to communicate the hell out of that.

Maybe I am giving people too much credit, but I think at a FB game compliance will be very high.

 

[madguy30]

https://www.vox.com/2020/5/28/21270...pen-economy-social-distancing-states-map-data

Almost everyone is opening too soon.

Depending on how you interpret the numbers then maybe they have gone down? That doesn't sound like very sound science.

No widespread testing.

No contact tracing program.

No vaccine.

These are things that the same group that wants to reopen said we needed before we could reopen.

Literally nothing has changed.

Yeah this site shows different counts than what's reported and different sources report different numbers but is in the same general ballpark and weekly averages appear to be lower. Thursday and Friday seem to be the weekly 'spike' of reported cases but even yesterday was the lowest Thursday count in a long time. That said, cases being down means 'green light' to some people and that will be interesting to see how that plays out.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Assuming 30,000 people in a space is OK to advertise for is definitely up for discussion but at least what Pollard has done has provided a situation where people know where they stand and have ample time to make their own decisions, and if they don't go, they can come back next year. It's more of a 'this is where we are, this what we're doing, this is why' sort of message than what's been communicated overall.

Personally going to a football game can be a pain in the ass and if they're playing this fall, HD tv with some PBRs will work for me.

 

[CascadeClone]

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I plan on going to the games and have renewed our 4 tickets for this season, if I have to wear a mask, so be it. I will not enjoy it, but will do that just so I can go to the games.
Go Cyclones.

I would guess this will be the feeling/opinion of 90%+ fans. Maybe I will do a poll.

 

[Sparkplug]

This thread has jumped the tracks.

Covid has its own threads.

 

[madguy30]

This thread has jumped the tracks.

Covid has its own threads.

Isn't that what JP's announcement was based on?

 

[Statefan10]

I would guess this will be the feeling/opinion of 90%+ fans. Maybe I will do a poll.

I'd rather be slightly uncomfortable due to having to wear a mask, than sit at home comfortable watching games on my couch. As the weather gets colder, the mask will become more comfortable and most people will get used to wearing it. It's a very small price to pay to be able to do something most of us thought wasn't going to happen.

If it's a rule I will gladly abide by it. I don't have to agree with it, but I think everyone should be able to understand why the rule is implemented.

 

[Frak]

When the data varies as much as this does day to day, you need to look at trend lines. Taking a single day snapshot doesn't mean much. Valley's on the weekends and peaks during the week seems like a symptom of reporting processes. To that extent though, today's peak point is lower than the valley's that we were seeing in April.

Positive tests are still a direct result of the amount of testing. Wasn't it Storm Lake where they decided to test all 1500 employees of a packing plant and 500 tested positive? All of a sudden, they are a hot spot. But those numbers would not be there if they didn't do mass testing.