It'll continue to crater until they can get out of that stadium. SDSU's new yard will only seat 35K. Petco holds 42K for baseball, and may have been explored and dismissed already.
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It'll continue to crater until they can get out of that stadium. SDSU's new yard will only seat 35K. Petco holds 42K for baseball, and may have been explored and dismissed already.
Buffalo Wild Wings sponsored the Tempe bowl after Insight dropped their naming rights. When the Capital One Bowl dropped their naming rights of the Orlando bowl, Buffalo Wild Wings took that spot for a couple years and then the Tempe bowl changed to the Cactus bowl (and switched venues). Yes very confusing.
Ah, missed that one. That was a really late deal; BWW wasn't announced as the sponsor until late October.
Depends on how you define "historic." The truly historic games still have their roots in the name. It's the lower tiers where the full name depends on the title sponsor.
The "Allstate Sugar Bowl" is still recognizable as the Sugar Bowl. But the "Taxslayer Bowl" means nothing to common fans without the word Gator in there -- which they thankfully reinstated a couple of years ago. Or when Chick-Fil-A dropped Peach from the name, and people lost their minds. That took 8 years, but finally got fixed.
They need to give each bowl a permanent name and add the sponsor at the end. You could say "The Tangerine Bowl sponsored by Camping World" or "The Camping World Tangerine Bowl". Remember the "Nokia Sugar Bowl"? Or the "Fed EX Orange Bowl"? Or the "Moblie Cotton Bowl"?
The sponsors demand the bowl named solely as the sponsor. If a bowl is the Peach Bowl Presented by Chick-fil-A or even the Chik-Fil-A Peach Bowl, a good portion of people will just say The Peach Bowl which defeats the purpose of the sponsorship. I love the old bowl game names but the bowl system is completely corporate now and pays the participants as such.
Most of the established/long-time games are this way. The Independence, for example, has been around since 1976. Sure, they've had some weird-ass sponsors over the years, but the word "Independence" was in there every year but one.
Rose, Orange, Sugar, Cotton, Liberty, Fiesta, Holiday, and Alamo have always had those titles in their names. Even Music City, Hawaii, New Orleans and Las Vegas have maintained their consistency.
Peach, Sun and Gator each had brief stints of derp at one time.
247 Sports has posted bowl projections. They have eight teams going to bowls:
Baylor, Okie State, Iowa State, TCU, K State, West Virginia, Texas and Oklahoma.
If this is right, how is the Big 12 not the most difficult conference for 2020? 80% of your teams in a bowl game! Of course, for that to happen, both Kansas and Texas Tech will have to lose almost every conference game.
Anyway, that is so Iowa State, we have potentially one of our best teams in a year when everyone is competitive. Guess we will be in a lot of dog fights this Fall.
https://247sports.com/college/iowa-...rs-Michigan-Wolverines-147721561/#147721561_1
Baylor, Okie State, Iowa State, TCU, K State, West Virginia, Texas and Oklahoma.
If this is right, how is the Big 12 not the most difficult conference for 2020? 80% of your teams in a bowl game! Of course, for that to happen, both Kansas and Texas Tech will have to lose almost every conference game.
Anyway, that is so Iowa State, we have potentially one of our best teams in a year when everyone is competitive. Guess we will be in a lot of dog fights this Fall.
https://247sports.com/college/iowa-...rs-Michigan-Wolverines-147721561/#147721561_1
Armed Forces is considered the lowest rung for the Big 12 tie-in bowls, right? That would be deflating, I'm hoping for better.
The Big 12 bowl pecking order for 2020 is:
CFP
Cotton/Peach/Fiesta/Orange - guaranteed only if the champion is not in the CFP
Alamo
Cheez-It (in Orlando)
Texas
Liberty
The Bowl Formerly Known as Cheez-It (in Arizona)
Armed Forces
First Responder
The Sugar Bowl is a semifinal this year, meaning that if a Big 12 team makes the CFP, the next-best Big 12 team is not guaranteed a New Year's 6 game like it is in years where the Sugar is not a semifinal.
Armed Forces and First Responder alternate as the last selection. Armed Forces has even years; First Responder odd years. WVU (2017) is the only Big 12 team to have been in either of those bowls since 2014. The other 5 seasons there weren't enough Big 12 teams to get down that far -- either due to a second NY6 team or sheer lack of eligible teams.
Are some of those bowls at-large (for both slots)? Curious if it's possible in theory B12 could get two teams among those 4 bowls (if not in CFP)?
The auto bids for the NY6 are Pac-12 and B1G to Rose, Big 12 and SEC to Sugar, and ACC to Orange. This coming season, both the Rose and Sugar are semifinals, so it throws things off considerably.
The only sure thing is that an ACC team will play in the Orange Bowl. Their opponent in that game, plus the Cotton/Peach/Fiesta Bowls, could involve teams of any conference. But any other power conference champion that does not make the CFP is guaranteed to get one of those 7 slots.
Here's how it shook out the other two times the Sugar and Rose were semifinals:
2014
Sugar (semi): #1 Alabama (SEC #1) vs #4 Ohio State (B1G #1)
Rose (semi): #2 Oregon (P-12 #1) vs #3 Florida State (ACC #1)
Cotton: #5 Baylor (Big 12 #1) vs #8 Michigan State (B1G, at-large)
Peach: #6 TCU (Big 12, at-large) vs #9 Ole Miss (SEC, at-large)
Orange: #7 Mississippi State (highest remaining SEC/B1G team) vs #12 Georgia Tech (ACC, contractual)
Fiesta: #10 Arizona (P-12, at-large) vs #20 Boise State (G5, guarantee)
2017
Sugar (semi): #1 Clemson (ACC #1) vs #4 Alabama (SEC, at-large)
Rose (semi): #2 Oklahoma (Big 12 #1) vs #3 Georgia (SEC #1)
Cotton: #5 Ohio State (B1G #1) vs #8 USC (P-12 #1)
Orange: #6 Wisconsin (highest remaining SEC/B1G team) vs #10 Miami (ACC, contractual)
Peach: #7 Auburn (SEC, at-large) vs #12 UCF (G5, guarantee)
Fiesta: #9 Penn State (B1G, at-large) vs #11 Washington (P-12, at-large)
If not in the top 4, the Big 12 champ will still be guaranteed a spot somewhere as a "displaced champion." Any other Big 12 team would need to be in the top 12 (probably top 10, in reality) to get an at-large NY6 spot.
2014
Sugar (semi): #1 Alabama (SEC #1) vs #4 Ohio State (B1G #1)
Rose (semi): #2 Oregon (P-12 #1) vs #3 Florida State (ACC #1)
Cotton: #5 Baylor (Big 12 #1) vs #8 Michigan State (B1G, at-large)
Peach: #6 TCU (Big 12, at-large) vs #9 Ole Miss (SEC, at-large)
Orange: #7 Mississippi State (highest remaining SEC/B1G team) vs #12 Georgia Tech (ACC, contractual)
Fiesta: #10 Arizona (P-12, at-large) vs #20 Boise State (G5, guarantee)
2017
Sugar (semi): #1 Clemson (ACC #1) vs #4 Alabama (SEC, at-large)
Rose (semi): #2 Oklahoma (Big 12 #1) vs #3 Georgia (SEC #1)
Cotton: #5 Ohio State (B1G #1) vs #8 USC (P-12 #1)
Orange: #6 Wisconsin (highest remaining SEC/B1G team) vs #10 Miami (ACC, contractual)
Peach: #7 Auburn (SEC, at-large) vs #12 UCF (G5, guarantee)
Fiesta: #9 Penn State (B1G, at-large) vs #11 Washington (P-12, at-large)
If not in the top 4, the Big 12 champ will still be guaranteed a spot somewhere as a "displaced champion." Any other Big 12 team would need to be in the top 12 (probably top 10, in reality) to get an at-large NY6 spot.
