I think signing a good class next year is going to be difficult because of the current bad year.
This is why Prohm must go........
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I think signing a good class next year is going to be difficult because of the current bad year.
yeah, more borderline NBA guys are leaving each year. Same in college football. The number of undrafted early entries keeps going up.
What roles do you think the recruits fall into next year, and what strengths do they have that could flip the team from 20 losses?
The one area that ISU has struggled the most during Prohm’s tenure is defensive rebounding. I used to think this was a result of playing small yet we declined in this area even more while playing 2 bigs this year.
Any idea why his teams are so poor at defensive rebounding?
Any idea why his teams are so poor at defensive rebounding?
because our two bigs aren't good rebounders
I'd think we are getting close to a steady state pretty soon and this slows down. It's not like there is a growing number of G-league and NBA roster spots. It's easy to say, "That guy is probably not NBA material, but he'll just go to the G-league." No matter what, all of the guys entering the draft and FA have to take a roster spot from somebody currently in the NBA or G-league. After a few years of marginal guys heading to the G-league, the college talent is getting watered down enough where there just aren't as many guys good enough to take roster spots. Now if you start seeing a higher percentage of guys make the NBA after playing professionally overseas, that's where the further dilution is more likely in my opinion.
People don't seem to get that without hoibergs players prohms best year is sole ownership of 5th place in conference and a first game exit from the NCAA tournament.
His last 3 years his average big 12 tournament seed is 8. Which is good for 2nd worst in conference ahead of okstate, who averages an 8.333 seed.
Now, let's include his good years into that average with the great teams hoiberg left him, which are some of the best teams we have ever had at ISU. A 4 seed, and a 6 seed.
His 5 year average seed is a 6.8, which is good enough for 3rd worst in conference, ahead of tcu(7.6) and okstate(7.8).
His last 3 years his average big 12 tournament seed is 8. Which is good for 2nd worst in conference ahead of okstate, who averages an 8.333 seed.
Now, let's include his good years into that average with the great teams hoiberg left him, which are some of the best teams we have ever had at ISU. A 4 seed, and a 6 seed.
His 5 year average seed is a 6.8, which is good enough for 3rd worst in conference, ahead of tcu(7.6) and okstate(7.8).
Yes. So because of this change, coaches are going to have to adjust their recruiting styles a little bit to take into account all of that.
Tough call at that point.
I hope he reaches the tournament or flames out next year
And ever since Fred has been here, here is the list of teams to ever win the Big 12 tournament..
Kansas
Iowa State
Missouri
Agree. That would mean that JP hasn't realized that he needs to have a conversation with Steve post season about losing being unacceptable and determine the steps we need to take to get back.
It's a top 25 class because of quantity of players, not quality. Based on average player ranking it's more like 50th.
Last season's recruiting class had the same number of players as this season's recruiting class. Last season's ranking was outside the top 50. Quality must be a part of ranking somewhere.
The tourney is the feather. Winning conference championships is the cap.
It plays a part. Miami and MSU are ranked below us and both have 2 players in the top 75 in their class. I'd rather have those classes. IMO.
I'm not sure they're the guys we need for a quick turnaround next year. Probably good 4 year guys though.
