It appears he has a bone to pick with some specific posters here. When his flawed arguments are pointed out, as a defense mechanism he claims that any fan who is unhappy with our performance simply has it out for Prohm personally (rather than his 17-37 Big 12 record the past 3 years). That leads to his ridiculous arguments like this claim that fans wouldn’t be happy with a sweet 16 next year.
This is why Prohm must go........
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It appears he has a bone to pick with some specific posters here. When his flawed arguments are pointed out, as a defense mechanism he claims that any fan who is unhappy with our performance simply has it out for Prohm personally (rather than his 17-37 Big 12 record the past 3 years). That leads to his ridiculous arguments like this claim that fans wouldn’t be happy with a sweet 16 next year.
I would be bet real money that Prohm is the leader at ISU in losses at home by 15 or 21 or 25 or 19 with a full moon.
You can't be that literal right? If you don't understand why losing by 20+ on a regular basis is a bad sign, then there is no hope for you.
When Prohm was handed the program, it was at one of the highest points in its history, that is a fact. No argument from me on that. However, he is now setting such lows that they are an embarrassment to the program. You base a coach of his or her predecessor, not the guy from the early 80s. That probably isn't fair to the present coach, but for 3 million a year, you need to produce.
Ah. The old “ISU was bad 40 years ago and we should use that as our reference point rather than looking at recent history and striving to at least match that” argument. Reeks of desperation.
if a coach is clearly unable to keep the program at the level he inherited - it’s time for a better coach. Or we could try it your way, and lower expectations because of where the program was decades ago.
Which approach should a winner take? If you were a leader, which route do you think will best help achieve success?
I don’t expect 6 straight tournament trips. I do expect better than 1 out of 3 (especially when it looks likely to be 4) when 2 of the years are historically bad. Right now it is hard to see the peak being higher than last years squad.
If that is our peak followed by the bottom of the Big 12.... it’s time to give it the old Wayne Morgan test. When he was fired a year removed from the tournament and a decent team, I was fine with it because I didn’t believe he could get our program to a higher level than that. Apply that test to Prohm.
in year 5 for Prohm we started a true freshman on Saturday that was previously committed to South Dakota State.
The reality is that I think I've seen enough of Prohm to know he's just not gonna get it done here.
Like having a good quarterback, good shooting covers up other deficiencies. You can win a decent amount of games but your weaknesses get exposed when you play more balanced teams.
Cat made a great point earlier about defense and rebounding. Those things are huge and what I was talking about with great shooting covering up deficiencies. Defense and rebounding is something you can carry with you even when shooting does not work. Like Cat said, there is not much hope in those departments right now.
Set failure as the standard so if the team fails, then it’s expected.
I've said it a million times on here but I think last year was a great year. The problem with Prohm is not the highs. Nobody is asking for titles although it would be nice.
Two of his five years have been two of the worst years in program history. This year we haven't played a meaningful game in 2020. That kills a fanbase. I was in the seat for every game of the McD era and while I might be spoiled, I haven't made any attempt to watch a road game in a while. This team doesn't interest me in any way. That's a very bad thing that needs to change right now.
We all cope with the losing in our own way!
I hope when we win he’s as happy then as he is miserable now. He’s one of us, presumably! I don’t recall him being around prior to the recent seasons, so maybe he’s just a troll?
Anyways, spring is starting soon. Will we at least see some new assistants?!?!?!? A new pg????
Of course it's not commonly used or recognized. It should be rare.
It's being looked at this year because it illustrates the point in my prior post - there have been way, way too many games this year are absolutely pointless games. They aren't fun to watch and the game is decided quickly.
ISU has a top 15 fanbase. It's really not debatable.
Saturday kind of summed up the season. We are so bad that we got toasted by the only team in the conference with a worse record. It was not available on TV where I live and I was thankful for that. I love to watch ISU games and pull for them, but there is nothing to pull for this year.
You don't have Internet where you live? It was on ESPN+ which means it was available anywhere that has Internet.
EXPECTATIONS SHOULD BE RAISED.....You Sir are Absolutely Correct....This program's goals should be to win a regular season conference title every five years.....If thats too high a bar...then get a NEW COACH!!
I agree my friend...Every school improves their facilities because its a never ending arms race towards winning....Coaches don't get paid for LOSING....
