Come on. it’s Abdel and Georges. Not abdul and George.Naz Long? Abdul Nader?
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Come on. it’s Abdel and Georges. Not abdul and George.Naz Long? Abdul Nader?
If we're only looking at his freshman year I thought Naz was going to get recruited over and I'd be surprised if anyone pointed at him and said "yep, there's an all time fan favorite in the making with multiple memorable moments right there" at that point in time. Credit to him though for putting in as much work as he did.I think you are misremembering a bit about Naz..
I get this is a normal saying for sports, but like....what? We're setting records for biggest home losses and got beat by a MEAC team. You're probably gonna need to explain this one a bit.Never as good or as bad as it seems.
Busting out the ever hated triple post to say that this is one of the most bizarre comments I've ever read on here, and that includes BodeClone posts. Like I didn't totally disagree at first and then line 3 happened and oh boy.The culture sold to recruits is "you will get to the NBA".
That says 1) no defense; 2) ignore the coach; and 3) one-on-one, jack the 3 offense.
The problem is for football and basketball - we are on the north end of a no-name conference that is about 6th best in the country.
"Hey, you get to go to the state of Kansas twice !! AND play TCU !!! you will be on National TV every game !!"
Ha.
Busting out the ever hated triple post to say that this is one of the most bizarre comments I've ever read on here, and that includes BodeClone posts. Like I didn't totally disagree at first and then line 3 happened and oh boy.
Besides, if somebody says "never" or "always" then it most likely isn't true.I get this is a normal saying for sports, but like....what? We're setting records for biggest home losses and got beat by a MEAC team. You're probably gonna need to explain this one a bit.
It helps when those two bigs shoot mid 30% on 3s.First of all, this isn’t 1960 basketball with “centers”....second, even Fran McCaffrey can figure out how to get 2 bigs (Garza, Kriener) on the floor at the same time. In fact elite teams do it all the time. Only a moron would make our 3 bigs split 40 minutes like Prohm has done this year with Solo and George.
Not really. Naz came in with George. ISU had plenty of guards that year but you could see his potential. Had good size too. Hit some really big shots in big games as a sophomore.
It just seems to me that CSP and staff don't understand the type of player they need to recruit to Ames to have prolonged success. The right coach for the job recruits the Midwest high schools and JUCOs first and foremost. Prohm and staff continuing to recruit guys from the Southeast (where they're from) - with no Midwest ties - is simply lazy and poor recruiting. That's why when those recruits get to Iowa for real, they are home sick and out of place. Fred, Larry, and Floyd all had success recruiting the Midwest high schools, JUCOs, and transfers. Canadians have even worked out well recently, It's all about the right fit, and it seems like CSP and staff don't understand the type of player they need to recruit. Look at Campbell's recruiting (Midwest focus) vs. Rhoads (Florida/Texas/Cali) - the results are night and day - we've been down this road before - we need a Midwest guy with strong Midwest connections.
IMO you really can’t compare Prohm to Rhoads or McDermott because Prohm has had a much higher level of success than either of those two. McDermott literally never had a winning season at ISU and even though Rhoads had some great moments, his team was never realistically competing for Big XII championships like CSP’s teams have at their best.
I was thinking yesterday that Prohm’s tenure is starting to remind me a bit of Travis Ford at OSU. If you recall, he had a lot of talent and success early on in his career at OSU, and sent some players to the NBA, but then he stopped getting to the NCAA tourney despite still pulling in some decent talent to Stillwater. The key to his demise was that fan and donor interest starting plummeting, and what used to be a tough environment at GIA began to erode, very fast. OSU is still recovering from that mess today and might not truly ever get it back.
I’ve heard JP state this before in interviews; it’s incredibly difficult to win a customer back once they’ve left. I just hope we don’t get a point as a fanbase where our ticket sales, donors and overall atmosphere deteriorate to a point where it will take years to gain it back. Heading into an era of uncertainty with college basketball in general with the pay to play, tv rights and one-and-done rules are up for change in the near future, things could get weird in Ames.
Besides, if somebody says "never" or "always" then it most likely isn't true.
CAT YOU ARE WITHOUT A DOUBT THE DUMBEST F**K ON THE PLANET.....INCLUDING THIS MESSAGE BOARD
You play like you practice is the way it works. Something is missing.Been working on this a while. Hope you guys enjoy.
https://cyclonefanatic.com/2020/02/williams-an-analysis-on-iowa-state-basketballs-future/
it seems that you really really misremember where a lot of the players you’re trying to use as a rationalization for a flawed group think talking point, were actually from
Maybe it will be proven a Midwest guy will end up being the right answer, but not because of where kids they recruit are from.
I think you’re stretching what is considered Midwest. Chris & Nick Babb, Clyburn, Kane, McGee, BDJ are all from outside the Midwest. Let’s not act like we haven’t had guys from outside the Midwest be quite successful here.I'm talking about players that make a difference, really the only two non-Midwest, non-Canadian difference-makers from the last 10 years are Georges Niang (Mass.) and Craig Brackins (CA). I'm not talking about guys to fill out a roster, I'm talking about dudes! Check the list below.
Tyrese Halliburton - Wisconsin
Matt Thomas - Wisconsin
Donovan Jackson - Wisconsin/Iowa Western
Jameel McKay - Wisconsin/Indian Hills/Marquette transfer
Scott Christopherson - Wisconsin
Deonte Burton - Wisconsin/Marquette transfer
Diante Garrett - Wisconsin
Monte Morris - Michigan
Melvin Ejim - Canada
Naz Long - Canada
Jamie Vanderbeken - Canada
Jake Sullivan - Minnesota
Dustin Hogue - Indian Hills
Abdul Nader - Illinois
Deandre Kane - Marshall transfer
Korie Lucious - MSU transfer
Chris Babb - PSU transfer
Will Clyburn - Marshalltown CC/Utah transfer
Tyrus McGee - JUCO
Chris Allen - MSU transfer
Royce White - Minn. transfer
I'm talking about players that make a difference, really the only two non-Midwest, non-Canadian difference-makers from the last 10 years are Georges Niang (Mass.) and Craig Brackins (CA). I'm not talking about guys to fill out a roster, I'm talking about dudes! Check the list below.
Tyrese Halliburton - Wisconsin
Matt Thomas - Wisconsin
Donovan Jackson - Wisconsin/Iowa Western
Jameel McKay - Wisconsin/Indian Hills/Marquette transfer
Scott Christopherson - Wisconsin
Deonte Burton - Wisconsin/Marquette transfer
Diante Garrett - Wisconsin
Monte Morris - Michigan
Melvin Ejim - Canada
Naz Long - Canada
Jamie Vanderbeken - Canada
Jake Sullivan - Minnesota
Dustin Hogue - Indian Hills
Abdul Nader - Illinois
Deandre Kane - Marshall transfer
Korie Lucious - MSU transfer
Chris Babb - PSU transfer
Will Clyburn - Marshalltown CC/Utah transfer
Tyrus McGee - JUCO
Chris Allen - MSU transfer
Royce White - Minn. transfer
Michigan isnt the mid-west. Neither are Pennsylvania or West Virginia.
Also, maybe you missed that the current sophomores are all from either Wisconsin or Chicago, Illinois. And half the freshman class was from Missour (Leech) or Kansas (Grill). So stating that this staff only recruits the SE is completely a falsification.
This is not always the case. In practice, you can be fundamentally sound, do all the little things, and look perfect, but once the bright lights come on, everything goes out the window. It happens all the time in every single sport. From listening to Prohm, the guys are educated on the defensive and offensive side of things when it comes to scouting, but then out on the court, they go off into their own little worlds.You play like you practice is the way it works. Something is missing.
Difference-makers - only Halliburton on the current roster. Leech and Grill not dudes.Michigan isnt the mid-west. Neither are Pennsylvania or West Virginia.
Also, maybe you missed that the current sophomores are all from either Wisconsin or Chicago, Illinois. And half the freshman class was from Missouri (Leech) or Kansas (Grill). So stating that this staff only recruits the SE is completely a falsification.