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Statefan10

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What’s up with Wieskamp? His shooting percentages are a lot lower than last year
Teams aren't allowing him to get as many open looks as he had last year. He's a huge force of emphasis for opposing teams. It's a bit of a sophomore slump but I don't think it's anything more than that.
 

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Iowa is fading..

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Last night is the first time since Feb 2nd they have beat a team who is considered good. (2-3 point favorite at tip-off may I add). They are having a good season, borderline great consider their performance history of the last 10 or 20 years. We are having the opposite

But Iowa hasn't beat a relevent team away from Carver since before Christmas, on a neutral court against Cincy. That same Cincy team is also fading fast and is currently hovering on the bubble.

Iowa's resume also includes a loss to the worst (or close) P5 team in the country. Want to prove you are a good team little brother.. Go beat Michigan State or Illinois at their place.
 

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Iowa is fading..

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Last night is the first time since Feb 2nd they have beat a team who is considered good. (2-3 point favorite at tip-off may I add). They are having a good season, borderline great consider their performance history of the last 10 or 20 years. We are having the opposite

But Iowa hasn't beat a relevent team away from Carver since before Christmas, on a neutral court against Cincy. That same Cincy team is also fading fast and is currently hovering on the bubble.

Iowa's resume also includes a loss to the worst (or close) P5 team in the country. Want to prove you are a good team little brother.. Go beat Michigan State or Illinois at their place.

Not really breaking news that winning on the road in the B1G is extremely difficult this season.

Iowa is 8-6 in Quad 1 games and 12-7 in Quad 1 and 2 games.

This isnt really the year to go after Iowa's resume considering they are 19-8 while playing one of the most difficult schedules in the country according to KenPom.
 

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What’s up with Wieskamp? His shooting percentages are a lot lower than last year

Please let this be your next troll! We need Wieskamp to turn it around and you have a good track record of your trolls backfiring.
 

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Not really breaking news that winning on the road in the B1G is extremely difficult this season.

Iowa is 8-6 in Quad 1 games and 12-7 in Quad 1 and 2 games.

This isnt really the year to go after Iowa's resume considering they are 19-8 while playing one of the most difficult schedules in the country according to KenPom.

It's pretty telling that a team with a resume of Top 5 in Q1 wins only to ranked 27th in the net.. also Wiscosin, Rutgers and Illinois are 26, 28 and 29th on Torvik. Let's see how many of those home wins fall outside of Q1 by the end of the season
 

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It's pretty telling that a team with a resume of Top 5 in Q1 wins only to ranked 27th in the net.. also Wiscosin, Rutgers and Illinois are 26, 28 and 29th on Torvik. Let's see how many of those home wins fall outside of Q1 by the end of the season

NET has the Iowa SOS way out of whack when comparing it with KenPom and Sagarin.

KenPom: 8

Sagarin: 8

NET: 89
 

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Iowa is fading..

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Last night is the first time since Feb 2nd they have beat a team who is considered good. (2-3 point favorite at tip-off may I add). They are having a good season, borderline great consider their performance history of the last 10 or 20 years. We are having the opposite

But Iowa hasn't beat a relevent team away from Carver since before Christmas, on a neutral court against Cincy. That same Cincy team is also fading fast and is currently hovering on the bubble.

Iowa's resume also includes a loss to the worst (or close) P5 team in the country. Want to prove you are a good team little brother.. Go beat Michigan State or Illinois at their place.

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I think there have been 2 or 3 years of fading over Fran's 10 years. Way too much is made of it. Heck look at ISU last year, they finished the reg. season losing 5 of the last 6. The year before that they lost 6 in a row to finish the season, and 8 of their last 9. This year won't be any better as well. That is 3 straight years of the Steve slide, now that is a real issue.
Since 2014 in conference Fran has been 87-92 or .4860%
In same time period from Feb to end of season his record is .4857%
 

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NET has the Iowa SOS way out of whack when comparing it with KenPom and Sagarin.

KenPom: 8

Sagarin: 8

NET: 89

Didn't the NCAA create NET for the NCAA tourney? Why wouldn't you use that.

Most fans (including me) agree that KenPom, Sagarin, BPI and Torvick are better. But that's just not how seeding is going to work.
 

HawkJRP

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Didn't the NCAA create NET for the NCAA tourney? Why wouldn't you use that.

Most fans (including me) agree that KenPom, Sagarin, BPI and Torvick are better. But that's just not how seeding is going to work.

My understanding is NET is one tool they use to determine the field and seeding. They arent going to seed the teams strictly based on their NET ranking.
 

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Yup, so not only.

I never said only. I was implying that you should put WAY more emphasis on NET over any other metric.

Let's make an example using your data on SOS: Net is 60%, Kenpom is 20% and Saragin is 20%. That would imply a SOS rating of 57.

*This isn't the actual percentages but you have to understand NET rules over all other rankings come selection Sunday. Right or wrong..
 

HawkJRP

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I never said only. I was implying that you should put WAY more emphasis on NET over any other metric.

Let's make an example using your data on SOS: Net is 60%, Kenpom is 20% and Saragin is 20%. That would imply a SOS rating of 57.

*This isn't the actual percentages but you have to understand NET rules over all other rankings come selection Sunday. Right or wrong..

Iowa was in the mid to upper 20's in NET when the selection committee revealed their top 16 seeds a couple weeks ago.

Iowa was also mentioned as one of 3 teams that were given the most consideration to be in the top 16 that didnt make it by the chair of the committee.
 
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