INSTANT REACTION: No. 1 Baylor 67, Iowa State 53
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Nixon should be playing about 5 minutes a game.
Jackson is not exactly a great shooter either. He rarely makes a basket.
It’s apparent that Prohm is very knowledgeable about the game, no doubt. I think he can recruit. I don’t think he can “coach” the knowledge to the players. There’s a difference in knowing the game and teaching the game. The lack of game plan and execution is a problem. Last night they went to Jacobsen the first two possessions...strange plan.
I'm in agreement. I've been thinking about something the past couple of days.. You know how there are some games that can make / break a season? The ones that after the season you say, "man if we just would've won THAT game, things might've turned out differently". Right now, the Florida A&M game and the TCU game stick out for me. Think about it, with those wins, we'd currently be 11-9. The only losses we'd have, outside the Oregon State loss, would be against very good teams. We'd be thinking a bit differently about the season as a whole and would probably have aspirations of slipping into the tournament.
Now, that didn't happen and we did lose those two games and are now two games below .500. Those types of games though are ones that sometimes tend to be make or break games for coaches. 11-9, win 6 more games and you're on the bubble ya know? We'd play with more intensity and fire because there actually would be light at the end of the tunnel, whereas I feel like we're at the point in these games where when teams go on a run, we go "welp we suck and aren't going to make the tournament anyway, might as well just mail this one in". That's what's frustrating about this season. We have talent, but for whatever reason, be it coaching, or whatever, we haven't been able to put a competitive product onto the floor. But I guess the reality of it is that at the end of the day the blame is on the coach.
This team just does not have patience and grit like we've had in the past. Once this team goes down by 10 points, they just panic and can't stay composed/patient. When Baylor made the run and hit the 10 point mark, instead of regrouping and play our game, we went on to panic mode which resulted in contested threes and ill-advised jumpers.
Good teams (like KU) never panic even if/when they are down by 8 to 10. They are always composed and chip away little by little. We did exactly that against Auburn and almost took them down. Just got to figure out to be patient and play OUR game, not on fly-by.
Good teams (like KU) never panic even if/when they are down by 8 to 10. They are always composed and chip away little by little. We did exactly that against Auburn and almost took them down. Just got to figure out to be patient and play OUR game, not on fly-by.
What you are saying is that Prohm is a good recruiter, but is not a good a head coach.
I would agree.
That was actually a good plan. They started with Vital guarding MJ, but we got them to switch to where the guard (#45) was guarding MJ. Realistically MJ should dominate that mismatch all day long.
I also liked the plan to not guard Vital unless he was in the paint. Vital is basically worthless on offense if he isn't in the paint area, so I liked that we didn't waste a defender guarding him when he was running around the perimeter.
A JUCO wing that can shoot the 3 and guard at least two spots plus a scoring GT guard would be optimal imo.
Which was a tendency for many players last season. They won enough to get a 6 seed but the team was better when the ball was moving from player to player.
I think you mean theoretically the 6'8 (or whatever) guy should dominate the guard. MJs post offense isn't good and he doesn't play to his size. I don't need any post feeds on a regular basis for this team and really for any team. Post ups are inefficient offense.
I mean realistically and theoretically. I was just discussing with someone that MJ should be a more physical player but he tries to play a finesse game. He's got the body to bully people but despite people (his own family) trying to get him to play that way he doesn't. So realistically and theoretically with his size over the guy he should have dominated him.
What I think all of us fans are concerned about is the fact that we're losing our national brand. Recruits have grown up watching ISU basketball on ESPN. They have heard and seen the force of Hilton Magic. Watched our up-tempo offense in which players are given a green light and the freedom to make plays. The opportunity to play for a 'player's coach' in one of the best conferences in college basketball.
Now losing in Hilton has become acceptable and expected. We don't have a free flowing, fun style of play. Our head coach has a passive-aggressive approach with his players and always seems to have someone in the doghouse. We don't make adjustments or have any sort of identity as a team. We are losing what makes us unique and Prohm needs to answer those tough questions. He knew the kind of program that he was taking over and we are watching it spoil right in front of our eyes.
Now losing in Hilton has become acceptable and expected. We don't have a free flowing, fun style of play. Our head coach has a passive-aggressive approach with his players and always seems to have someone in the doghouse. We don't make adjustments or have any sort of identity as a team. We are losing what makes us unique and Prohm needs to answer those tough questions. He knew the kind of program that he was taking over and we are watching it spoil right in front of our eyes.
Those guys? Colvin, Gilstrap, Staiger, Dendy, Hamilton, and Brackins were all on the McD's last team, but not on Fred's first team. Garrett, Christopherson, and Palo were the only holdovers between staffs.
I think Prohm is a good enough coach to get good talent to come play for him, but when the talent is lacking like this year's team, he's not a good enough coach to be able to take a below average team and have them play like an above average team.
I agree with everything you said above about him having shortcomings and him struggling in certain areas. I do also think that right now there are obviously pieces missing to this roster. We have no true shooters. None whatsoever. Our two best shooters are our primary ball handlers. When one of them has the ball, the other guy is being guarded tight enough where it's hard for them to get any sort of shot off. Opponents are sagging so far off Tre Jackson, Grill, Nixon, and Lewis it's hilariously disrespectful lol. You will live with one of those guys making one 3 pointer because that's most likely the only one they're going to make.
We also don't have any post play whatsoever on the offensive end. Conditt is not physical enough to go against those types of bigs, Solomon is a bit undersized, and Mike is not skilled enough, tall enough, fast enough or physical enough. We got abused last night on the inside on offense and defense.
So, what do we do? We can't shoot, our post play is below average, and our guards are too undersized to simply drive the basket every single time. And, even if we could drive to the basket, one of our "non shooting" guards will be left open to brick a 3. Idk, I don't have the answers to these questions, but neither does Prohm and that's the scary thing. This team is Prohm's. He brought in Nixon. He took a chance on Johnson who wouldn't see the court at all this year. He had two freshman bow out before the season started.
Yeah that's kind of my thoughts right now. I think Prohm has the ability to get guys here and when the talent falls into place, his guys are skilled enough to compete at a high level. When the talent lacks, he's not a good enough coach to figure out how to put the pieces together.
I don't hold much weight into losing a first round game last year. You can have the best coach / team in the world and not play well one game and lose. You could play good all year long but that one weekend in March you get beat. However, the great coaches are the ones that can take teams that don't have a ton of talent and get them into the tournament to potentially make a splash.
That's why I think Prohm needs help. He has to find someone to come in and help him out strategically or analytically. The fact of the matter is that if Prohm doesn't change his ways, he will not be here much longer.
You mean the 3 players that actually remained with the team for Fred's first year? Crazy that he didn't have success his first year with that type of continuity.
The biggest problem to this was that we did a horrific job of finding Vital when the shot went up. He flew in for every offensive rebound and it was easy for him because no one was within 10 feet of him when he would go in for the rebound.
