UFOs: Cmdr. David Fravor on Rogan
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Why does every UFO presentation have some weird dude talking about secret government projects?
The pilot makes a convincing argument.
Odds of alien life visiting earth >>> Bigfoot being real
The pilot makes a convincing argument.
Odds of alien life visiting earth >>> Bigfoot being real
Are they though? Not that I believe in Bigfoot, but we find new species on our planet all of the time. Haven't had any space visitors yet. Likelihood of intelligent life out there is low. Even if there is intelligent life, the odds of anything in the universe having the technology to travel into other galaxies is even lower. I'd probably take my chances on Bigfoot.
I think all of these ufo's are just new types of military tech that they are tinkering around with. They probably are more than happy to let people believe they are aliens. Just because the Navy says they don't have anything like that, doesn't mean that they don't. Why would they tell us?
I completely agree with this, what I have a hard time wrapping my mind around is we probably don't even understand what "alien life" means. We're still in our infancy here on Earth and don't know much about what happens outside our planet, solar system or galaxy. While there is a lot of science that says carbon based life forms is probably the entire heap, I can't accept it as fact given we're so "dumb" in the grand scheme of things.
Humans made very little technological advancement for a few million years. More has happened in the past 200 years than in the previous million. What are people going to figure out in the next 200?
I wonder if the outsiders have Netflix.
They have a good explanation why your second paragraph isn’t really realistic. These are not active propulsion systems that they are seeing. If that tech was available decades ago, there is no way it would have been kept under wraps this long. It would change the way we travel instantly. Militarily, there would absolutely no match for it.
Well technically if they are are alive and well and traveled backwards in time we couldn't **** something up in their universe without intervention. If they changed something it wouldn't **** up their present, but rather create a parallel universe.
I love hearing about all this stuff, however simulation theory doesn't really do it for me. Their is a Rogan podcast with Elon Musk where they discuss it because Musk is all about it.
I would guess a lot of UFO sightings are actually military stuff - drones, balloons, new aircraft, etc. I think the stealth fighters were almost certainly witnessed as "flying saucers" back in the mid-80s before they were unveiled officially.
We like to have stuff that other countries don't know about so they can't plan for it. I am all for that. But we also like to bluff about what we have to make other countries plan and spend to counter non-existent threats (e.g. SDI). Some of the UFO stuff could be (should be?) military misinformation designed to make potential aggressors think we have capabilities we don't have. Again, I am all for that, no one wants to be first to attack the country that might have photon torpedoes or other such magic.
Sure. So it's aliens then. Just what they want you to think.
I've heard this kid was responsible. He's trying to travel to the future to keep himself from that robbery conviction.
I'm just joking. It's a pointless philosophical discussion IMO.
Are they?
Fermi asked where they are...and the answer is that they're too far away to travel here or they've already risen and fallen. Humanity will cease. But somewhere (probably millions of somewhere's) out there an intelligent life form will rise in 100,000 years and one fell 100 million years ago.
OR all the millions of things that had to go exactly right to create the conditions in which humanity rose are simply too complex a system to happen more than once...
Except there are literally trillions of Earth like worlds in the universe for those things to go right on.
that’s why these things are terrestrial whatever they are. perhaps “shadows” of higher dimensional objects? Human perception is very limited.
The math blows my mind, but extrapolate that out to how many people on other planets have actually forgotten to pick up theirs kids from school....how big is that number? 3? 4?
This answer I can't buy. The numbers are incomprehensible...you'd have an easier time convincing me that there is an identical planet out there with exactly the same people living exactly the same lives as we're all living right now on Earth than you would convincing me we're the only ones out here.
Occam's razor strikes again. I love that people think because the Navy says "that's not our stuff" that it must not be. Strategic hiding of certain capabilities and overstating other capabilities has been a pretty common practice, particularly during the cold war.
Agree it would be difficult, but not impossible. Well, at least I can see the military trying its damndest to keep it under wraps. Any release of some kind of supercraft or weapon that is a massive step change beyond current technology is going to create panic. Even if your country is the one that has it, it doesn't take some history buff to see that other countries will eventually figure it out and have it to.
