I'd argue that the first poor decision made in that situation was the dunk by Johnson. You're the one referring to d--k moves, if that wasn't one then there never has been one.
KU vs KSU Brawl
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I'd argue that the first poor decision made in that situation was the dunk by Johnson. You're the one referring to d--k moves, if that wasn't one then there never has been one.
I am in no way attempting to portray Kansas as any sort of victim here. That's just how you read it.
I am simply just not ignoring the part that Kansas State played in the event.
This was absolutely not what he wore to that event. That's a TV ad. What are you even talking about and what does it have to do with anything being discussed here?Well, yeah, but then there's the whole Adidas thing.........
This was what he wore to their midnight madness thing, whatever they call it. So classy! I think Snoop Dogg was there, too. What a fine representation for the program.
From an article by Jason Owens on Yahoo! Sports:
And just as unfair is that it will leave a lasting impression that stands alongside and may even eclipse Self’s and KU’s obtuse decision to promote Late Night in the Phog with the head coach wearing a massive chain and an Adidas T-shirt in the midst of the Adidas pay-for-play scandal while he works on a $52 million contract.
New rule-- every time you post something dumb we respond with this picture of De Sousa trying to Mick Foley someone with the terrified spectators in the background. Gotta love the new face of KU basketball. Well, that and the blatantly cheating and NCAA investigation thing.
Poor Kansas.
If something exists out there that shows otherwise, I would like to see it. By all means, please share it if you have it. Not sure how you could state that what I have or have not seen is a complete lie or not but you're worked up, I get it.
As I stated, I simply have not seen anything that explicitly shows McCormack stomping on some person on the ground. And I've seen more than a few different videos and angles of the incident now, although my twitter app isn't launching this morning. Maybe the fight broke twitter, I don't know.
Check from about :26-:30 on this clip. I don't know how you describe that other than a stomp.
Maybe one of the nearly trampled spectators will have footage from the ground where we can get a definitive look.
You are putting the blame squarely on Kstate, I can go back and quote that multiple times. Both teams are at fault here.
REad further, you can do it.
"In the lead-up to the event, Self was featured in a hype video wearing an Adidas shirt and a chain necklace with a dollar sign hanging on it."
When the writer claimed that he was wearing that stuff during the event then he was mistaken. He didn't.
Can we get back on topic, please. This has nothing to do with the conversation.
I'm just glad that through all of this Hollywood Higgins got a chance to go to the monitor for a clock review. That added second for free throws made all the difference!
Well I seem to be a little fuzzy on the fan blocking Johnson's dunk...then standing over him......only to have that fan grab a chair to slam on Johnson while two other fans are stomping Johnsons chest. I missed that part.
Ok, let me help get back on topic:
In addition to blatantly cheating, being caught in the middle of an FBI investigation, while also being investigated by the NCAA and openly mocking the organizations that are investigating them, Kansas also engaged in a brawl in the their own handicap seating section in which one Kansas player appears to attempt to stomp on someone while wildly swinging his fists, while another one wields a chair.
Ok, back on topic now.
That doesn't show whether he was stomping on him or stepping over him. Based on the fact that the KSU guy got up and in no way grabbed any part of his body as if a 6'10" 250 pound humongous man had just stomped on him, I don't see anything there that supports your claim. But you'll see it how you want.
Look at everyone looking down. They are obviously all looking at someone on the ground. And that is in not stepping over someone. It's targeted.
Do you really expect a video of his foot in a guy's chest or something in the middle of that melee?
I agree that both teams are at fault. It's done, KU will punish their players (will KSU?) and the Big 12 will follow.
Looking forward to heading down to Lawrence for Saturday's game vs. Tennessee.
Both teams acted dumb causing the incident to happen. K-State's (always injured) James Love and for sure Ku's Silvio DeSousa and maybe others are in deep doo, methinks. Two pretty much non-contributors by the way, particularly Love.
That wasn't playing tough, boys, it was just juvenile behavior coming off your benches.
Bill Self answered all the questions correctly in his presser. Weber, I didn't hear but he evidently said it was his fault. Whatever, this wasn't rivalry it was thuggery and an embarrassment even for two schools who pretty much hate one another.
That wasn't playing tough, boys, it was just juvenile behavior coming off your benches.
Bill Self answered all the questions correctly in his presser. Weber, I didn't hear but he evidently said it was his fault. Whatever, this wasn't rivalry it was thuggery and an embarrassment even for two schools who pretty much hate one another.
"Thuggery". That's for sure surly. My wife shook her head last night and said.....and we get upset when they call us thugs. Exhibit A is this game.
